2005-02-12 [Balthizar]: why do you hate bush exactly?

2005-02-12 [Kagomeyasha]: he is stupid and he makes all of the wrog choices for this Country.

2005-02-12 [Balthizar]: how so?please i ask you to be specific?and ,please illistrate how he is stupid?

2005-02-12 [Ajsinnott]: he is really really stupid, first he cheated his way into being the presedent twice

2005-02-12 [Ajsinnott]: were is the members list

2005-02-12 [Kagomeyasha]: He spends so much money on irac and other country's outside of our own when schools and other places in this country are in need of that money he is giving away. He plans to bann things that are pointless to bann. It's stupid.

2005-02-12 [Balthizar]: do you have proof he cheated?

2005-02-12 [Balthizar]: really...so helping other nations is stupid..hhhmmmm,and do you know that he is making a plan to give more money to schools?and that reallys its the job of the state not the national government to give funding?

2005-02-12 [Ajsinnott]: yes i do, for 1 he made a broadcast saying if you want to vote for me then vote onthe tusday if u wnt to vote for kerry then vote on the wensday, by wensday the vots had stoped

2005-02-12 [Kagomeyasha]: Cheated?what did i say about cheating? I'm saying that he should concentrate more on his country and not so much on others.

2005-02-12 [Ajsinnott]: i said he cheated lol

2005-02-12 [Balthizar]: really,? thats not cheating by the way,no where in the campaigne rules does it say he cant say htat,infact that would allow things to run smoother

2005-02-12 [Balthizar]: he does concentraite on this country,by making sure were on good terms with others,so that way,another terrorist attack doesnt happen

2005-02-12 [Ajsinnott]: it is cheating because the voting stoped on 5 pm on the tuseday, so everyone who wanted to vote for kerry coudent vote

2005-02-12 [Balthizar]: hhhhmmm..interesting,and yet people were able to vote for kerry

2005-02-12 [Ajsinnott]: yes because some peole realist that the vote was a lie

2005-02-12 [Balthizar]: then,are they not the smart ones?and it had to be alot of people who realized that because it was a close race

2005-02-12 [Kagomeyasha]: He's planning to make a amendment against Same sex marriage! that's insane! seriously not letting people marry who they wish? that is insane! this is not a very free county if i do say so myself!!

2005-02-12 [Ajsinnott]: pluse the brodcast was only made in the last conty the desiding conty

2005-02-12 [Balthizar]: the leave,personely, if you dont like it so much leave.second, no hes not, hes taking away marrige rights, but they can stll get married.also, congress wont let that bill pass

2005-02-12 [Balthizar]: were you in that county?

2005-02-12 [Kagomeyasha]: He's turning this entire fucking country into chritians!

2005-02-12 [Ajsinnott]: no actuley im from the uk

2005-02-12 [dominoe]: im in scotland here to watch the fight

2005-02-12 [Ajsinnott]: lol cool do u like of h8 bush

2005-02-12 [Kagomeyasha]: I have to live under fucking Rule of that damn man!

2005-02-12 [Ajsinnott]: yer poor you *huggles* im off now bye

2005-02-12 [Kagomeyasha]: *huggles back* oooo okies bye bye

2005-02-12 [Ajsinnott]: bye

2005-02-12 [Balthizar]: He has not installed any rules that havent already been there,aslo,if your not from our country,what right do you ahve to dis our leader?

2005-02-12 [dominoe]: bush is nuts

2005-02-12 [Kagomeyasha]: he is nuts! He didnt deserve to win!

2005-02-12 [Ajsinnott]: him with hes problems have cost england many lives, we are always there for american, cas england is like americas mum, u see we made you what u are, your mum is proud of you but you do fuck up now n the, mum says bush is just a spot

2005-02-12 [Balthizar]: again,how so?Kerry wouldnt have been any better.1.you dont switch presidents in a middle of a war.2. he lied on everything he said,i know i proved him wrong.3. he has no clue how the military works.4. he supported gay marriege yet in congress he voted to ban it

2005-02-12 [dominoe]: hey what about scotland

2005-02-12 [Ajsinnott]: oooooooook

2005-02-12 [Ajsinnott]: scotland is like englands brother

2005-02-12 [Balthizar]: really?england is like our mum?and how many americans have the british killed in hte past?and no,were no the cause,england made the choice to support bush

2005-02-12 [Balthizar]: really?when england oppressed and invaded scotland in the past?

2005-02-12 [dominoe]: yep yep

2005-02-12 [Ajsinnott]: england dident make tht chose, tony blair made that chose

2005-02-12 [Balthizar]: for england,with the permission of parilament,which represents England' people

2005-02-12 [Kagomeyasha]: At least KErry would have been able to take things more maturely and actually talk properly in front of an audience! Why the Fcuk was bush elected in the first place?!?! He's not right for this job. he has no fucking idea what he is doing!

2005-02-12 [Ajsinnott]: tony blair dosent think it was a good idea now he know it was a mestake to trush bush any way i g2g bye

2005-02-12 [dominoe]: did anyone here this speach?

2005-02-12 [Balthizar]: Bush has more of an idea then Kerry,Kerry even said in a press conferance that bush was hadnling the war well,second,he said he didnt know he would have done in Bush's place..he said he would probley do the same thing

2005-02-12 [Kagomeyasha]: whick one?

2005-02-12 [Balthizar]: but he made that choice,also,america gives alot to england,and vice versa,so in a way,e has to trust bush

2005-02-12 [Balthizar]: it was before the elections began,at the very begining of the race..i know this from my teacher who is a democrat and was very angry at Kerry for saying that because it mde him sound like a hipocrite

2005-02-12 [dominoe]: he is!!!

2005-02-12 [Balthizar]: who?Kerry? yes he is,your right on that,kerry is a hypocrite

2005-02-12 [dominoe]: but i do think kerry should have won

2005-02-12 [Balthizar]: why?why would you elect a man who voted against everything he said he stood for,and voted for somthing who says he doenst stand for?

2005-02-12 [dominoe]: cose u get some with a mind

2005-02-12 [Balthizar]: Bush has a mind,he understands how a country works,Kerry does not,a man who contradicts himself with everything he says?Bush atleasr goes through with he says

2005-02-12 [dominoe]: true but we hate bush

2005-02-12 [Balthizar]: but why ? you habve not been able to put forward a good reason for hating bush

2005-02-12 [dominoe]: he kills millons of ppl of no reason

2005-02-12 [Balthizar]: so does saduam,and other world leaders,and he doens t kill them..if so,how?

2005-02-12 [dominoe]: he started a ar with no evadence

2005-02-12 [Balthizar]: actually,he had evidence,anough evidence,and while it proved to be wrong,he did the noble thing and admit it second, he also went in to remove a man from who threatend and killed his own people for the fun of it,tell me:whos worse suduam or Bush?

2005-02-12 [dominoe]: bush i guess

2005-02-12 [Balthizar]: really? who the only reason people died was to save others?

2005-02-12 [dominoe]: right.....>_<

2005-02-12 [Balthizar]: im seruise,you hating bush more hten suduam is retarded when a man who killed his own people for fun should deserve that hatred

2005-02-12 [dominoe]: blah..

2005-02-12 [Balthizar]: interesting..your arguements say you hate bush but you cannot produce sufficeint evidence to prove why.you say he kills people but then so has every country,and some more then us.you say you hate him because hes ugly but then so is Kerry,you say hes stupid and cant speak well...techincly by societies standards neither can kerry...so tell me...where is the logic in your arguments?

2005-02-12 [dominoe]: have u seen the guys IQ its 93 that below the average c'mon and u think he can run a country

2005-02-12 [Balthizar]: how do oyu know its 93? did he personelly tell you that?

2005-02-12 [dominoe]: i found it on the net

2005-02-12 [Balthizar]: really?well unless Bush puts it out himself it is more then likley not real

2005-02-12 [dominoe]: how do u know??

2005-02-12 [Kagomeyasha]: He also kills thousands of inocent people so you cannot say that he is a savior.\

2005-02-13 [Ajsinnott]: true

2005-02-13 [Balthizar]: people die as a result of war,tell me,was george washingtont a savoir then?

2005-02-13 [Ajsinnott]: ok you car about bush then but this wiki is about pople who h8 em so just leave

2005-02-13 [Balthizar]: what is wrong with that?and no i dont care about bush,i want to know why you hate him,and see where the logic is in your hate

2005-02-13 [Ajsinnott]: well hate comes from action, you think it is un logicul to h8 bush but we think it is very logicul to h8 em so there

2005-02-13 [Balthizar]: how so?and you never answered my question,is george washignton a savior?or william wallace?

2005-02-13 [Ajsinnott]: i dont realy care all i know i good old george was a great man

2005-02-13 [Balthizar]: yes, but innocent people died...just like with Bush

2005-02-13 [Ajsinnott]: bush rymes with much tho, cant you see

2005-02-13 [Balthizar]: so? rymes...thats retarded reason to hate some one

2005-02-13 [Ajsinnott]: no its not

2005-02-13 [Balthizar]: yes it is, ok,wht about peots?

2005-02-13 [Ajsinnott]: popets rock

2005-02-13 [Balthizar]: but they ryme

2005-02-13 [Ajsinnott]: and

2005-02-13 [Balthizar]: so does bush,you said you hate him because he rymes...but then so do Poets

2005-02-13 [Ajsinnott]: but bush has just admited he is gay

2005-02-13 [Balthizar]: no he hasnt,and if so, does that mean you hate gay people

2005-02-14 [Kagomeyasha]: If you come supporting bush dont stay this wiki is for those against him :( we dont care what you guys think :D

2005-02-14 [Balthizar]: so its alright for you to go into wik's who suport him?oh and by the way, i dont like him..but i support the troops..so ..thechincly...i can stay here by your rules you just stated

2005-02-14 [Kagomeyasha]: yes but if you are going to you cannot say that we have to support him. So therefore you shouldt really be argueing with us about liking him =/ We support the troops to but we dont like bush!

2005-02-14 [Balthizar]: i never you said you had to like him..i was wondering why you didnt..all i wanted was a logical reason thats all

2005-02-14 [Kagomeyasha]: I dont like bush because he makes all of the wrong choices in my opinion also he try's to bann things that are not necacerry to watch.

2005-02-14 [Kagomeyasha]: I dont like bush because he makes all of the wrong choices in my opinion also he try's to bann things that are not necacerry to bann

2005-02-14 [Balthizar]: true..he doesnt need to ban gay marriege...but not all his choice are wrong..some have been good..

2005-02-14 [Kagomeyasha]: yes but I still do not support him. He has no right to bann it yet he does anyways

2005-02-14 [Balthizar]: thats because he is afraid of change,,,which is retarded...i think it has to do with the beliefs he was tought..personly..i dont see how gay marriage is bad

2005-02-14 [Kagomeyasha]: me neither i wrote a persuasive essay about it. I am so in control whne it comes to that. i dont know who couldnt win debating against me ;D

2005-02-15 [Balthizar]: i was in a debate about that..i won...^^ go free marriage!!

2005-02-15 [Kagomeyasha]: Yeah! I totally agree with you! banning SSM is tottally insane and horrible! we arent really a ree country i we cannot marry who we wish, right?

2005-02-15 [Balthizar]: No country is free,a free country can never be obtained as long as we are human or show basic human emotions,legal marriage for all is only a step forward towards a more ideal country

2005-02-17 [Kagomeyasha]: That's true but people move here because of our rights given to our citizens..and to not give all citizens equal rights isnt really that fair at all =/

2005-02-17 [Balthizar]: true,but our country is more free then others,techincly gay marrige isnt manned yet and its even legal in most states.

2005-02-18 [Kagomeyasha]: no actually it isnt it is only free in one state. Vermont i believe. I could be wrong though.

2005-02-18 [Balthizar]: still..better then none

2005-02-18 [Balthizar]: and back in the day vermont was a major puritan state

2005-02-18 [Kagomeyasha]: I'm not sure if it was Vermont or Massachutsets er however you spell it.

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: this wiki is bullshit...and gay marriage should be banned...and you do realize that Karry was against gay marriage too?...so stop picking on bush for actually having some morals

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: Wellll tell me your reason for banning SSM?

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: that isn't the point of this wiki now is it? tell *me* why you don't support bush...i already explained to you about the oil...

2005-02-21 [Ajsinnott]: Stalkers of [RabidSphinx] go to it

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: No, I would like to hear your reason for hateing homosexuals.

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: lol...go to my i hate homosexuality wiki if you want to talk about such things...i want to know why you don't support a decent man like bush

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: exactly 'decent' we should not have a 'decent' man running such a large country.

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: he is decent because he is not the "best" i could have said "great" but i felt that we have had very few "great" presidents...Bush is one of the good ones we have had, and he is a good man...he runs this country better than you could...the size of the country has nothing to do with anything...a decent person can run a small or a large country

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: Yes I know that he could run it better then I, but i still believe that we could have a better leader.

2005-02-21 [Ajsinnott]: stalkers of [RabidSphinx]@wiki join...

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: name a better leader...a already have shown that Karry wouldb't have been...

2005-02-21 [Ajsinnott]: Stalkers of rainedrop there we go thats it

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: I dont have one at the moment, I just do not believe in what he is doing.

2005-02-21 [Ajsinnott]: Stalkers of rainedrop ill stop lol

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: what is he doing that you don't believe in?

2005-02-21 [Ajsinnott]: im from the uk, but hey, from what people say bush is a bad person, but ive onlt herd that, i dont fully understand

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: Sending so many soldiers to Iraq for no reason really

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: i told you the reason, to get rid of saddam because he was killing MILLIONS of people...you remember, maybe you're too young, when he gassed all those people, killing THOUSANDS of men woman and children, just to prove that he could? we went in there for the reason of getting rid of the threat. he *said* he had weapons of mass distruction that he was willing to use...as presidant, bush had to make the HARD dissision to go in there...yes, we lost a thousand soldiers....that is a SMALL amount comparied to every other war/ conflict we have been in...and those soldiers all CHOOSE to be there...there was no draft, bush is against the draft...theose men and woman choose to serve this country +Bush

2005-02-21 [Ajsinnott]: thats true, raine saddam was off his rokker and needed to be took out, but afder they got him why didenet h slear out his soldures?

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: Okay so I heard Wrong. No i didnt hear about that.

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: Yup, that is what happened...and why didn't we clear out? because we invaded...we can't (according to UN and US law) go in somewhere, take out a dictator, destroy cities with our fighting, and not stick around to help fix things...we were for helping them get a new leader or government, which we are doing, and we are responsible for helping them rebuild their cities, which we are doing...just because our initial objective is completed, doesn't mean we can just leave and say, sorry we tore apart your country and left you with no government, and leave...we *had* to help them, thus why we stuck around...

2005-02-21 [Ajsinnott]: right so he did good, i know this, he startid as a bad leader but proved him selve

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: he started off as our leader after a MAJOR crisis(9-11)...our country was attacked by an outside force for the first time on our soil since the revolutionary war! he wasn't even inaugurated yet and the country was looking to him for split second decisions and guidance...he started off strong, and has stayed strong...he has faced things NO OTHER president has EVER faced before...he had no one to look to but his aids and himself...

2005-02-21 [Ajsinnott]: are you arguing in about three wikis at he same time?? wow keep it going, your both mates but you argue cool XP im going any way

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: Yes he did help us alopt during 9-11 and i am greatful for that, but we need something more then what he is giving us. We need his attention not the other countries. I know that they may be fighting with us, but we atre spencing so much on money there that we are losing money here.

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: we have the responcibility as a supper power to help lesser countries, and Iraq was *our* problem to fix, not the UN's or anyone elses because we created the problem with Saddam in the first place over 20 years ago...yes, war/ conflict *always* puts us in debt, but we were already in debt,...try a few trillion...that didn't change or really get that much worse with bush in "power"...he is helping us, he is *trying* to change to Social Security issue, but the democrats are fighting him on it, and he is direction money towards schools...but he is a republican, and we belive in a hands off governmet...we don't support wellfare...because we don't agree in the idea that hard working amaricans...

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: Should support people with personal problems, bought on by bad choices they made…he is working hard to help where he can without robbing the Americans of their hard earned money to help the scum of the states like the democrats want....why should *i* have to pay for someone else's mistake it the key...

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: Yes, that is true, but once everything is figured out and delt with in Iraq, Will things go back to normal? People will not feel the same any longer for such tradgities that have happend. I know that we have gotten over them in the past, but this one is so terrible, so many people have been dieing the past 4 years, it's insane.

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: once we are out of iraq, and in hinesight we can see how much we actually helped, i think people will be a little less harsh on bush...and yes, lots of people have died in the last 4 years, but you know, we have lost fewer men 9an woman) in this *whole* conflict, than we did in any *one* day of fighting in any of the world wars or Vietnam

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: I know. This whole thing is going insane. There are way to many selfish people in this world.

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: *nods and agrees*...that fact is, everyone that is fighting over there, chose to be there...they were not drafted...bush is against the draft...people today are just very selfish and narrow minded

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: Yes i totally agree with that one Raine. I just realized that we were argueing on three wiki's :P

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: yes...i knew that...i do this often, and it isn't argueing, it's debating, though i seem to be the only one that knows the rules of debate, or can back my side with more than "i just do"...lol

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: is that all that i say --; sorry.

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: it's alright...i just have this thing where people shouldn't have *stong* opinions on topics they don't know anything about,....everything i feel strongly about, i am able to defend in debate...things like global economy, i only know limited things about, so, i have no real opinion on it...that is our differance i think

2005-02-21 [Ajsinnott]: im bkwow look at at that bad langued towards each over lol

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: Okay then. Well that makes me feel better for some odd reason.

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: i think the worst thing i said was "bigot"...what are you talking about [Ajsinnott]?

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: i don't mean anything mean by it, you are my friend, but everything i debate over, all my wiki like pro-life and i hate homosexuals were made after WEEKS of research...i wrote a 20 page paper on Abortion, and then, at the end, took the stand that i was against it...

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: Okay. Raine I did take a Wrong setp when i made this wiki with out doiing reasearch.

2005-02-21 [Ajsinnott]: lol

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: a little...but that's okay...you learned some stuff about bush out of it all...(^_^) maybe you can change it to be like, i *disagree* with bush or something...lol

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: rofl! yes i could do something of the sort :P

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: lol...something...maybe just take down the hate part and maybe explain your belief a little more...(^_^)

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: there

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: a little better...(^_^) it still says, "ANYONE WHO COMES HERE HATES BUSH!!!!!!! WE DISPISE HIM!!!! HE HURTS INOCENT PEOPLE!! ALSO HE MAKES STUPID LAWS!" which isn't really true

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: < i forgot about that one!

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: :D

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: much better...(^_^) i'm less offended now...hahaha

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: hehehe :D well that

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: hehehe :D well that's good to hear

2005-02-21 [RabidSphinx]: hahaha...it is...lol i still support him, since he is our comander and chief, and he has helped us and others out.,....and i think he looks adorable...i just want to hug him...lol

2005-02-21 [Kagomeyasha]: That's definatly odd :O I think that he's kind of funny looking actually :P not to be rude XS