# of watchers: 12
2005-01-28 [De'ladrei]: oh dear
2005-01-28 [Fallen Redemption]: its not a google image o_O
2005-01-28 [Fallen Redemption]: :( oh dear....if its going to cause problems then maybe it should be taken off :(
2005-01-28 [Sunrose]: (I hope it can stay on, but not if it was stolen.. :(
2005-01-28 [Fallen Redemption]: it wasnt stolen :( but if you think it should be then take it off, and i'll look to see if i still have the progress pics
2005-01-28 [Sunrose]: Only if that can be proven...and thus I hope you can prove you made it :)
2005-01-28 [Sunrose]: Maybe you also have more art, so we can compare your style?
2005-01-28 [Bad Stone]: austrilain sunset...for now anyways
2005-01-28 [LauRRa]: i loove the expression on that cang's face...it's priceless...:D
2005-01-29 [Fallen Redemption]: i dont have any proof, and no other work, thats only the second thing ive done, except for the flower on my house, so i guess it will just have to be removed
2005-01-29 [MangledKitty]: well, i mean the drawing itself isnt copied, i dont think....but the position and stuff i saw a kangaroo doing in a picture at google...
2005-01-29 [Ringbearer]: It shouldn't be removed yet. Its all right, unless proven to be a copy.
2005-01-29 [FireGypsy]: I looked for it and it was one of the first pictures on google. All the person did was smudge things up a big in photoshop. Heres the origional picture.
2005-01-29 [MangledKitty]: Yay you found it, I was looking all last night haha, must of been looking under the wrong category...but I knew the picture she did looked familiar
2005-01-29 [FireGypsy]: it was under the word "kangaroo" lol.
2005-01-29 [MangledKitty]: hmmm, I must have been spelling it wrong or something haha :P
2005-01-29 [FireGypsy]: =) it happens lol!
2005-01-29 [MangledKitty]: hahaha :) atleast we now have the pic!
2005-01-29 [FireGypsy]: yuppers!
2005-01-29 [Ringbearer]: Well, its not the same pic, but there is a resemblance all right.
2005-01-29 [MangledKitty]: yea
2005-01-29 [FireGypsy]: It is the same pic....all the person did was go into photoshop and smudged the colours on the kangaroo which you can plainly see. took a blue colour and airbrushed over the grass to make the sky, and smudged the bottom grass after making a few yellow dots. Lol i play with photoshop all the time so i know how to do these things =)
2005-01-29 [Fallen Redemption]: its not the same pic, i used if for a reference, but i apologise for it, i really am sorry
2005-01-29 [FireGypsy]: okay well i did some hands on research and found out some more. Here is the origional entree. Here is the origional pic. Now i took the origional pics and overlapped it with the entree and it fits to almost the exact extent. Every spot curve and corner fits perfectly. Now i myself as an artist know that if you use a picture for reference and then paint it seperately that there will be differences no matter how hard you try. That picture was not painted on an eisel just by looking at the strokes. That picutre was done in photoshop.
2005-01-29 [FireGypsy]: also, it is much harder to draw a picture using a mouse than a pencil so that makes it a lot harder to get is almost a perfect match like that. Furthermore, i did an experiment myself with photoshop and took the origional picture from gogle and put it in photoshop and tried to make it look like the entree. Now i am a beginner in photoshop and still dont know what im doing half the time, but i still managed to pop out this picture. Its not perftct and i half-assed it and didnt bother to blend the colours well,but youll see that with the colours on the origional picture and the smear feature on photoshop, that i get the exact colours the entree did. here it is.
2005-01-29 [FireGypsy]: coincidence or liar? You decide.
2005-01-29 [Sunrose]: That just sucks! It has been removed :(
2005-01-29 [FireGypsy]: I liked that picture too =( Why not take the time and effort to paint or draw it? Sure it may take some time but if you copy something, surely someone will notice.
2005-01-29 [MangledKitty]: mhm mhm
2005-01-29 [Sunrose]: Indeed...
2005-01-29 [Ringbearer]: Well, she apologised, and I think things will be cleared with the staff.
2005-01-29 [MangledKitty]: I didnt mean to cause any trouble :/
2005-01-29 [Ringbearer]: Its all right. Just leave the thing be for now, it is settled.
2005-01-29 [MangledKitty]: okie dokies
2005-01-29 [De'ladrei]: aw pitty :( but oh well rules are rules
2005-01-29 [MangledKitty]: hah okie dokies
2005-01-29 [The girl of your dreams]: i looove the one that is still there by [Ravendark}!!
2005-01-30 [FireGypsy]: *blushes* thanks girl of MY dreams =Þ lol!
2005-01-30 [Aurea]: I have a question! In the latest entry, number... 5, I think, is it a big wolf or little... elves? (Or are they people... OH, I DON'T KNOW!)
2005-01-30 [De'ladrei]: lol i think they are meant to be elves
2005-01-30 [Sunrose]: I don't know where you live, but I've never seen wolves wear clothes and have limbs like human beings :)
2005-01-30 [De'ladrei]: lmfao XD
2005-01-30 [FireGypsy]: lol its an elfpack get it? There is a wolf which is an animal that usually moves in packs and the elves are moving with him hence making it an elfpack! lol i dunno i got bored =)
2005-01-31 [LauRRa]: number 7 rocks!
2005-01-31 [De'ladrei]: ja it does
2005-01-31 [Aurea]: I mean... There are elves. And there are wolves. I never said the wolves were wearing clothes. It's all a question of are the elves really small or are the wolves really huge. Because... Well, if it's a Tolkien-type elf, it would be tall. However, most other elves since Shakespeare have been short...
2005-02-01 [Sunrose]: It does for me :)
2005-02-01 [Ringbearer]: It does now... Have no idea what was before.
2005-02-01 [Sunrose]: It wasn't the image, it worked for me from the start :)
2005-02-01 [De'ladrei]: me too, took a while to load but ish great
2005-02-02 [Solitiaum]: CHEATING WILL NOT BE TOLERATED!!! ENTRIED MUST BE YOUR OWN WORK!!
2005-02-02 [Sunrose]: Or at least a theme of evilness...or something like that..
2005-02-02 [De'ladrei]: what does mine come under? lol
2005-02-02 [Sunrose]: Mischievous! Which fits the evilness theme :P
2005-02-02 [De'ladrei]: ahhh right :D
2005-02-02 [FireGypsy]: awwee =( All these high tech graphics are going to whoop my picture uberly.
2005-02-03 [De'ladrei]: not really no
2005-02-03 [FireGypsy]: =Þ
2005-02-03 [Allen Barrec]: What program did she use?
2005-02-03 [FireGypsy]: hehe nevermind im getting the program. its called Poser 5
2005-02-03 [Allen Barrec]: Hm, naive little me doesn't know of it. Well, congrats that you are getting it ^_^U
2005-02-04 [Bad Stone]: I dont like poser...unless someone is very talented they look to much like barbies
2005-02-04 [Amalaswinta]: [Bad Stone]: I agree with the barby part, however, it isn't about talent alone, it's also about knowing what stuff to use. For example, when you use the standard skin for a character, it looks like plastic, when there are absolutely gorgeous skins for each character that almost makes them look like a photo (check out my pics "Seduction" and "Isn't she lovely" for an example)
2005-02-04 [De'ladrei]: i think i had that program actually...*wo
2005-02-04 [Amalaswinta]: The basics are quite simple, but when you really want to use the full potential of the program you're gonna *have* to do some serious tutorial-readi
2005-02-04 [De'ladrei]: hahaha yea the bushing all buttons thing sounds like me ^-^. i must find it again so i can try it out
2005-02-04 [Bad Stone]: well yeah, I;ve seen some good ones that people acutally out time into and try to make it seem like there is texture, but generally speaking people don't use the program as well as they could and they look like awkardly placed choppy barbies with gravity defing boobs...arg...
2005-02-04 [Amalaswinta]: LOL I know what you mean! Pamela Anderson would disappear behind some of 'm hahahaha... in any case, I always try to make 'my' models look as natural as possible, paying close attention to the little details such as wrinkles in faces with particular expressions, a natural pose of the fingers etc.. but it does take a lotta practice, true
2005-02-05 [De'ladrei]: and im asuming a great deal of patience
2005-02-05 [Amalaswinta]: hell yeah! Mermaid's Playground took me about 2 weeks in total, The Burning Times took about 3 days (and 5 more hours to get to the revised version), but on average, one pic (without the postwork) takes me about 10 - 15 hours... mainly cuz I'm so picky at trying to make it look as natural as possible :-P
2005-02-05 [De'ladrei]: i'll say, im going through your gallery and im amazed
2005-02-05 [Amalaswinta]: *blushes*
2005-02-05 [De'ladrei]: im not kiding, id kill to be able to do art work like that in such a relatively short time. it would take me a month to even do half of one of those pics, and even then it wouldnt be as good
2005-02-05 [Amalaswinta]: practice practice practice :-) I've spent hours and hours and hours just practicing. creating facial expressions, full body poses, messing around with lights, reflections and much more... and it pays off too: my very first pic (After the Hunger) took me 3 weeks, now that same pic would take me aprox 6 hours ;-)
2005-02-05 [De'ladrei]: wow *awe* lol
2005-02-07 [anvar]: Wow a lot of beatifull entries. May the best win
2005-02-08 [Solitiaum]: Im going to correct that soon.
2005-02-09 [Ellyn]: Woot! I made an entry!
2005-02-09 [FireGypsy]: congratz!
2005-02-09 [Ellyn]: Oh, thank you!
2005-02-09 [FireGypsy]: your welcome =Þ
2005-02-09 [FireGypsy]: *waves*
2005-02-09 [Ringbearer]: So, we all share her. You can have her on *looks in agenda* 23 december.
2005-02-09 [Solitiaum]: o.O remember to send a copy to my mailbox, plz -.-
2005-02-09 [Asrun]: n.n Sorry Sai, I'll send one to you too. Miss read the entry thing. n.n
2005-02-09 [Asrun]: No fighting. :O
2005-02-09 [Solitiaum]: Ty ^_^
2005-02-09 [De'ladrei]: hey asrun thanks for stealing my little "run with the pacl" phrase :p hehe tis a v cool entry my dear
2005-02-09 [Solitiaum]: Ooooo. Ty for the reminder. *runs to her message box for the new link*
2005-02-09 [Solitiaum]: Arg. *tries to get it to work*
2005-02-09 [Solitiaum]: There we go. ^_^
2005-02-09 [Ringbearer]: ooohh, niceeee
2005-02-09 [Solitiaum]: Very...
2005-02-09 [Ringbearer]: They all look nice... Will be a hard one.
2005-02-09 [Solitiaum]: Glad to see so much more support here than in the ET one ^_^ Makes me feel speshul.
2005-02-09 [Ringbearer]: You are spesiul.
2005-02-09 [Solitiaum]: ^_____________
2005-02-09 [Solitiaum]: weeeeeeeeeeeee
2005-02-09 [Ringbearer]: You deserve it!
2005-02-10 [Ellyn]: Right, I had a question, not directly concerning the contest, but does submitting a drawing to the constest count as contributing artwork to Elfpack? "Slap" me If I'm just asking stupid questions... heh, I'm known for that.
2005-02-10 [Asrun]: De'l: Oops, that's your saying? I thought it was EPs.. I can remove it if you want. ;.;'' Sowwy
2005-02-10 [FireGypsy]: *runs in circles*
2005-02-10 [Sunrose]: Uhm...I guess it does...but the winner gets a special badge, so your contribution can not be counted in yet :)
2005-02-10 [FireGypsy]: im still waiting for my entree to get scanned at my dads so its not so blurry
2005-02-10 [De'ladrei]: eee cool cant wait to see it again lol
2005-02-10 [FireGypsy]: lol *dances* but its no match for all these kewle high tech computer graphic ones =(
2005-02-10 [De'ladrei]: meh hunny, just cuz we use computers dont mean we will win. hand drawn ones have more feeling to them i feel sometimes
2005-02-10 [FireGypsy]: yes but and hand drawn one on the main page wont win...it wont look prfessional. =(
2005-02-10 [De'ladrei]: you never know hun. never say never
2005-02-10 [FireGypsy]: =D yeah *sighs*
2005-02-10 [De'ladrei]: *glomps*
2005-02-10 [Solitiaum]: O_O ack! *falls over*
2005-02-11 [Asrun]: *tackles De'adrei* ;.; Okies My drawing is hand drawn.. o.O
2005-02-11 [Asrun]: Just coloured on the computer cause I'm lazy. XD
2005-02-13 [Love like Winter.]: Hey, put a space between 'Riot' and 'Girl' please :)
2005-02-19 [Bad Stone]: here is an updated version of mine... http://img.pho
2005-02-19 [Asrun]: thanks. :O
2005-02-20 [LauRRa]: Thaanx..:D
2005-02-21 [Aurea]: Who was in charge of making that poll? I think maybe it should be a wiki poll where you can vote more than once... It would... be helpful. Because I know it was pretty close between me for two of them.
2005-02-21 [Teenage Buick Driver]: I dont think voting more than once should be allowed..... one vote one person....now betweent the two later on there could be another "election"
2005-02-21 [Teenage Buick Driver]: there are a couple on here, that if they werent drawings and we more computer images i'd vote for, but some of the computer generated ones have too much religious aspect in them. after all this is a diverse comunity.... not a religious one.
2005-02-21 [Sunrose]: Well the thing is that if everyone picks the utmost favorite, a winner will come out. And that's the goal...even though choosing is hard :)
2005-02-21 [Ellyn]: They are all so wonderful. Everyone really put their hearts into this one, I believe.
2005-02-21 [Amalaswinta]: hmmm.. I don't see a religious aspect in any of 'm really...
2005-02-21 [Asrun]: I don't either. o.O
2005-02-21 [Sunrose]: Me neither...but maybe that's because we're not religious? ;)
2005-02-22 [Solitiaum]: I can sort of see a pagan tilt to number 8... But not any of the others.
2005-02-22 [Sunrose]: Because of the witch there?
2005-02-22 [Asrun]: Mine has wings... o.o but it's not an angel.. >.o;
2005-02-22 [Sunrose]: lol! ;)
2005-02-22 [Solitiaum]: No, it reminds me of the pagan holiday Beltaine... Huge bonfire, then sex afterwards with either you husband or a random person to make the crops grow...
2005-02-22 [Ringbearer]: LOL, sounds cool.
2005-02-22 [Amalaswinta]: really? oh wow, didn't know that... sounds like fun though hahahahaha (gives a whole new meaning to my "Come play with us" text to huh...)
2005-02-22 [Solitiaum]: I know, right? >:)
2005-02-22 [Asrun]: *snickers* I'm not pagan, but I want to celebrate that! XD
2005-02-22 [Ringbearer]: WHo wouldn't :P
2005-02-22 [Solitiaum]: Its said that if you have sex with your partner around that time, that you will have a better chance of conceiving... OMG... That was when I concieved my son!! I just realised that! O_O
2005-02-22 [Ringbearer]: KEWL!
2005-02-22 [Solitiaum]: Asrun is currently winning the poll, btw...
2005-02-22 [LauRRa]: just currently...de
2005-02-22 [De'ladrei]: *wonders why everyone is talking abotu her religious holidays* lol damn our secrets out ;P
2005-02-22 [Solitiaum]: LOL!
2005-02-22 [Asrun]: *celebrates with De'ladrei* >:9~
2005-02-23 [Sunrose]: sexie! ^^
2005-02-23 [De'ladrei]: hehe!! oohh!!
2005-02-23 [Amalaswinta]: tnx! :-D
2005-02-28 [DenDen]: WOOHOOOOOOOOOO ITS FRONT PAGE!!! god I like this one a whole lot better
2005-02-28 [De'ladrei]: gee thanks *sarcasm*:p lol
2005-02-28 [Asrun]: *smooches De'la* My BF liked yours more than mine. >P
2005-02-28 [De'ladrei]: :D *cuddels the asrun* ech i do not mind, =D im happy that my friends won, if it hadnt there would have been one hell of an uproar from my side!!
2005-02-28 [DenDen]: ohhh I did like urs De but that one blends :)
2005-02-28 [De'ladrei]: lmao! i know i know i was trying to be funny! mines was an old piece i did for higher art last year hence the crappyness of it. hence why i was so baffledto log on one day and see it there on the front page lol
2005-02-28 [LauRRa]: Congrats Asrun and Amalaswinta..:) U dserve it...!
2005-02-28 [Asrun]: Thankies. :D
2005-03-01 [DenDen]: jeez they need to make up their mind what they want on the frontpage -_-
2005-03-01 [Solitiaum]: Its random... thats how its coded in the html...
2005-03-01 [DenDen]: to picky >_>
2005-03-01 [Solitiaum]: Dont get me started right now, ok? It WONT be pretty. -.-;
2005-03-01 [DenDen]: what..are u talking about
2005-03-01 [De'ladrei]: guys...wen the lady says drop it, she means DROP IT
2005-03-01 [Asrun]: *blinks* I think it's a good code. o.o
2005-03-01 [De'ladrei]: it is, means the best two got to win :)
2005-03-01 [Asrun]: yay! :D
2005-03-01 [De'ladrei]: ^^
2005-03-03 [Solitiaum]: Its not wise to criticise the ones who are in charge of whether or not you're banned, Morbid. And thanks for the support, Asrun and Del, hehe... ^^;
2005-03-03 [Ringbearer]: I support you too, hun! :P
2005-03-03 [Solitiaum]: I know you do! ^_^
2005-03-03 [Ringbearer]: :D There are some good people here on EP.
2005-03-03 [De'ladrei]: *marches about with her banners of support* lmao
2005-03-03 [Asrun]: *steals the banner and runs off* :D
2005-03-03 [De'ladrei]: :O! id yell but my throat wont work properly, it would only come out as a vaguely threatening wrasp! *wrasps!!*
2005-03-03 [Asrun]: Awww... ;.; *feels guilty since De'la can't yell* ;.; *gives it back*
2005-03-03 [De'ladrei]: *wrasps "wOOt"* hehe *makes Asrun her own banner*
2005-03-03 [Asrun]: :D Banner! :D
2005-03-03 [De'ladrei]: hehe
2005-03-07 [DenDen]: I have no idea what the hell ur talking about it was just a opinion dont get all bitchy about it
2005-03-07 [De'ladrei]: lol its not, its just a lot of hassle that people cant be bothered dredging up :P
2005-03-08 [DenDen]: bah