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"Love is the energizing elixir of the universe,
the cause and effect of all harmony."
~ Rumi ~


"Love is an act of endless forgiveness."
~ Peter Ustinov ~


"Your task is not to seek for love,
But merely to seek and find
All the barriers within yourself
That you have built against it.
~ Rumi ~


"Life is a flower of which love is the honey."
~ Victor Hugo ~


"In this universe it is love that binds everything together. Love is the very foundation, beauty and fulfillment of life."

~ Amma (Mata Amritanandamayi Devi) ~


"Do everything with so much love in your heart that you would never want to do it any other way."
~ Yogi Desai ~


"If you have love in your life it can make up for a great many things you lack. If you don't have it, no matter what else there is, it's not enough."

~ Ann Landers ~


A bell is not a bell
until someone rings it,
a song is not a song
until someone sings it.

Love wasn't put
in the heart to stay,
for love isn't love
'til you give it away.

~ Chanh Kha ~


"Love one another and help others to rise to the higher levels, simply by pouring out love. Love is infectious and the greatest healing energy."

~ Sai Baba ~


"You yourself, as much as anybody in the entire universe, deserve your love and affection."


~ Buddha ~


"When the heart acts, it touches everything in the universe."

~ Murshid Samuel L. Lewis (Sufi Ahmed Murad Chisti) ~


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2006-07-15 [kittykittykitty]: I'm more likely to delete something with a twitch.... I've closed windows before by accident :O

2006-07-15 [Bookwyrm]: XD That's not good. I've done that too irritates me...

2006-07-16 [kittykittykitty]: Especially if you have about 10 tabs open :P haha... Then you get stressed out, which doesn't help with the involuntary twitching.... >_>

2006-07-16 [Bookwyrm]: ::nods:: Agreed...entirely -.-

2006-07-17 [DRACE]: *hugs [kittykittykitty]* i miss u -.-

2006-07-17 [kittykittykitty]: ......................? *hugs [DRACE]* :)

2006-07-18 [zoloftzantac]: oh! oh! If I also miss you can I get a hugs?

2006-07-18 [Bookwyrm]: ::tackles and hugs zoloft:: I want a hug too!!

2006-07-18 [kittykittykitty]: Yay! You can have hugs for missing me too ^^ *hugs [zoloftzantac]* I think [DRACE] started another hugfest ^____^ *hugs [Bookwyrm]*

2006-07-18 [DRACE]: *grins* my work is done here, *fades away,like smoke in the wind*

2006-07-18 [Bookwyrm]: YAY! I got a hug from the kitty!! ::hugs kitty's feet::

2006-07-18 [kittykittykitty]: My feets! *giggles* :P *steals [Bookwyrm]'s shoes and tickles her feet* :O

2006-07-18 [Bookwyrm]: ::le gasp!:: Fiend! Scoundrel! ::can't breathe for laughing...but manages to tickle kitty in retaliation:: Mwuahahaha!

2006-07-18 [kittykittykitty]: *holds onto [Bookwyrm] so she can't escape the tickling while rolling around laughing herself* >:D Tickling is fun! XD

2006-07-18 [Bookwyrm]: XD I usually kick people that tickle me (reflex I inherited from my mom XD) but I won't kick you...on purpose. XD ::tickles back gasping for breath::

2006-07-18 [kittykittykitty]: I usually completely spozz out and flail lots.... that always makes it funnier, though XD *wiggles your toes*

2006-07-18 [Bookwyrm]: XD Yay for spazzing! NOOOOO! NOT MY TOES!! ::falls over helpless::

2006-07-18 [kittykittykitty]: :O Yes the toes! *wiggle wiggle* :P

2006-07-18 [Bookwyrm]: ::gasps:: Fiend! Rogue! Scallywag!! ::dies::

2006-07-18 [kittykittykitty]: ;_; *pokes*

2006-07-18 [Bookwyrm]: ::goes into seizure::

2006-07-18 [kittykittykitty]: :O *pokes some more. Tries to revive with more tickling...?*

2006-07-18 [Bookwyrm]: ::gasps:: NOOOOOES! ::tackles and eats kitty's toes...burping up one:: o.o

2006-07-18 [kittykittykitty]: :O *cries* My tooooes ;_; *nibbles on [Bookwyrm]'s foot*

2006-07-18 [Bookwyrm]: ::giggles...burps up the rest of kitty's toes...giggles more:: THAT TICKLES!! ::tries to re-attach toes...but since she's laughing she puts them all on backwards::

2006-07-19 [zoloftzantac]: awwhh, come on, no more foot play?

2006-07-19 [Bookwyrm]: Well this little Witch had to get some rest considering she's radioactive mister. :P She's also moody, in pain, and irritable - so she had to take a break from the computer 'cause the battery was getting to hot and making her stomach hurt.

2006-07-19 [Bookwyrm]: ::nods:: I'm to wait 'til Thursday to get back on my thyroid medication (hyperthyroidism) and then I don't know what. After my thyroid stops functioning though I'll be hypo and be on thyroid hormone (that's what I can't wait for.) My grandmother thinks my joint pain could be arthritis but I've also had muscle pain...and as of today pain around the area my liver is. But hopefully I'll be getting better soon, I didn't really get badly moody 'til today. But I'm trying to sleep most of my days away while I'm getting better. ::hugs:: Thank you for all your help and care, it means so much to me. I don't know where I'd be without my friends. :)

2006-07-19 [Bookwyrm]: And yes it would be helpful, if you wouldn't mind, to explain more. ^-^

2006-08-08 [Bookwyrm]: o_o Can someone tell me what a "foot ringtone" is? ::looks at advertisements to the right of page...::

2006-08-11 [kittykittykitty]: A foot ringtone? XD And you didn't click it? It might never show that ad again ;_;

The ads it's giving me don't sound so interesting.... there's one that says 'japanese women seeking men', but neither am I a Japanese woman or a man or seeking anybody so I doubt that is relevant *wonders if any people at all actually click on those sort of links*

2006-08-11 [Bookwyrm]: XD Well I don't make a habit of clicking on advertisements considering I have no job to finance me buying anything. I probably should've clicked it out of curiosity though! ::remembers to look for it henceforth:: Oh that's funny. The guy I know in the Navy is stationed in Japan. XD And I think it's rare that people intentionally click on the links...I've scrolled down and accidently hit one that I closed as soon as the little "x" popped up. XD

2006-08-12 [zoloftzantac]: Don't say that so loud ... [Hedda] wants us to click on them sometimes :p

2006-08-12 [Bookwyrm]: XD Well I will click on them sometimes. Like if I see the foot ringtone thing again...XD

2006-08-12 [Bookwyrm]: ::giggles:: Oh yes that has tons to do with this wiki...Did you know that some of these links are porn sites?! I just clicked on one and it took me to a porn site! T_T ::has been scarred::

2006-08-12 [Bookwyrm]: T_T I feel really violated right now. I thought I was going to vomit for a moment...

2006-08-12 [Bookwyrm]: Yeah I have to agree...I think I'm going to ask about that...that...::shivers::

2006-08-12 [¤♫♪Ģєήίε♫♪¤]: I keep getting ads for swords and sleep medicine.

2006-08-12 [Bookwyrm]: ::nods:: The ad was something about tickling or some sort of "tickle" site. I don't know what exactly, but I clicked to see what it was and there was no denying it was porn as it was very graphic at the top of the page. :( I don't think that should be linked to somewhere like this. I know Elfpack is a bit more liberal than Elftown, but that's too far...I'm hoping it's just an error, because I'm definitely too young to be looking at that and there are much younger members than me that could easily find their way there. The ad gave no warning of it being a porn site either...

2006-08-12 [Bookwyrm]: Yes, for nudity on houses, and pornographics images are not allowed on houses (I'm not sure about wikis for sure, the rules are a bit unclear there). But this was an ad, so I wasn't sure where to take it up. I asked Jon and he said to go to the forums. I made a post requesting something be done about it...

2006-08-12 [Bookwyrm]: I agree entirely. :(

2006-08-14 [zoloftzantac]: google makes the ads, but maybe [Hedda] can do something about which ads they can make

I just saw this ad on this page weird

2006-08-14 [Bookwyrm]: ::nods:: Yeah, he said that he could block particular websites from being shown on the ads, so he said he'd block the one I told him about. ^__^

2006-08-15 [kittykittykitty]: I'm so happy he didn't block this "Chat with Millions of Men" advert, though. I don't know what I'd do without these ads for chat and dating services :D

2006-08-15 [Bookwyrm]: XD Wooo! I always get chat with women adverts...:( I've got nothing wrong with homosexuality, but why does my laptop assume that I'm lesbian?

2006-08-15 [kittykittykitty]: Or maybe they just assume you are male :P I think the majority of internet users are

2006-08-15 [Bookwyrm]: ::le gaspage:: I feel so wronged! T___T

2006-08-15 [Bookwyrm]: Yeah see right there "Meet Ladies to Love"...not cool...::smacks computer::

2006-08-15 [¤♫♪Ģєήίε♫♪¤]: :( Still sleep medicine for me. But my computer is right. I need sleep. @_@

2006-08-15 [Bookwyrm]: I do too. I didn't sleep last night at all. T__T My mind was a-working through the night.

2006-08-15 [¤♫♪Ģєήίε♫♪¤]: :( *hugs*

2006-08-15 [Bookwyrm]: ::hugs back:: It's okay. Hopefully I'll be getting some stuff to help me sleep soon. ^__^

2006-08-15 [¤♫♪Ģєήίε♫♪¤]: ^^ That's good.

2006-08-15 [Bookwyrm]: ::nods:: Very good. ^__^ ::ish so exhausted but wants to stay awake in case someone calls. XD::

2006-09-04 [kittykittykitty]: ^_^

2006-10-12 [L V F]: -pokes head in through a hole in the wall and glances around getsm y head stuck- um a little help plz?

2006-10-12 [¤♫♪Ģєήίε♫♪¤]: *takes an axe and smashes through the wall, then pulls [L V F] out*

2006-12-08 [~*Astarte*~]: It's been quiet here...

2006-12-08 [Bookwyrm]: Well you've been quiet...::pokes gently::

2006-12-09 [~*Astarte*~]:
True Love

There is love, and then there is Love.
You love your family, but not your neighbor.
You love your parents, but not others' parents.
You love your religion, but not all religions - some you even dislike.
You love your country, but not all countries.
This is not true but rather limited love.
Transformation of limited love into Divine Love is the goal of spirituality.

copyright Amma "Messages from Amma" edited by Janine Canan 2004

2006-12-09 [~*Astarte*~]: Yes, I have been quiet...

2006-12-09 [Bookwyrm]: It's sad how true that statement is...:(

2006-12-09 [zoloftzantac]: I know Traci, it is sad, but Amma doesn't say this to make us sad, she wants to show us the path to spiritual growth all the while offering her own life as our inspiration. Practice love :)

2006-12-09 [Bookwyrm]: ::nods:: Very true. ^_^

2006-12-11 [~*Astarte*~]: Live love - tis a good way to approach life ^_^

2006-12-13 [X2]: loving love is mush better than to hate hate... and less dubblemoral too^^

2006-12-13 [Bookwyrm]: I Hate Hate isn't really meant to be taken it says on the wiki itself. x_x

2006-12-14 [X2]: true, but i love both hate and love:P thats a lot of loving you know:P

2006-12-14 [Bookwyrm]: ::shakes head::

2006-12-14 [X2]: what? isent that good:(?

2006-12-14 [Bookwyrm]: It's um...interesting at least. :/

2006-12-14 [X2]: being interesting is a posetiv thing:P

2006-12-14 [Bookwyrm]: Sometimes yes, sometimes no. Hitler was an interesting human being. x_X

2006-12-14 [X2]: yea.... i wont do those things corse of love..... im pretty sure...

2006-12-15 [Bookwyrm]: ::half-smile:: You'd be surprised what people would do in the name of love. Or in the name of loving hate. ;)

2006-12-15 [zoloftzantac]: Vlad the Impaler was also very interesting ...

2006-12-15 [Bookwyrm]: He's a hero to his native land though. x_x

Are you ever going to respond to my message, Z?

2006-12-15 [zoloftzantac]: uhh ... did you message me?

2006-12-15 [Bookwyrm]: ::grins:: Yes. I was hoping you'd post somewhere so I could ask you on a board...I figured you checked the wikis more often. ;)

2006-12-15 [zoloftzantac]: heh, I have some unread messages from a long time ago, I leave them unread on purpose, but then I don't always notice when I get a new one :S

2006-12-15 [Bookwyrm]: Mmmmhmm...I've noticed it usually takes you a few days to notice I've sent you a message. XD

2006-12-16 [zoloftzantac]: heh *^__^*

2006-12-16 [~*Astarte*~]: don't take it personally [Bookwyrm] - he doesn't always respond to mine either :p I think he's just a busy guy...

2006-12-16 [Bookwyrm]: ^_^ Oh I don't take it personally. I just like to poke fun at him. ^_^

2006-12-24 [kittykittykitty]: That's the best thing to do for fun xP *has a very looong list of neglected wiki-updates* O.o

Are we free to suggest thingers to add to this page? :B I think my favourite quote fits the theme like the others ^_^
Do everything with so much love in your heart that you would never want to do it any other way.
~Yogi Desai
mew :3

2006-12-24 [Bookwyrm]: Oooo I like that. ^_^ Reminds me of a song...o.o

2006-12-25 [~*Astarte*~]: Yes, [kittykittykitty], please feel free to suggest (and even add) quotes, etc. you would like to see here. This wiki is based on loving love... so I would LOVE for you to add your favorite quote! ^_^

2006-12-25 [kittykittykitty]: :P I have it printed on a bookmark I use for my college stuff so I never forget it ^_^"

'Tis Christmas Day now for me and for Elfpack time :3 Happy Christmas everybody ^__________^

2006-12-25 [~*Astarte*~]: Merry Christmas, [kittykittykitty]! And Merry Christmas everybody! ^_^

2006-12-29 [~*Astarte*~]:
"The greatest thing you'll ever learn, is just to love and be loved in return." ~Moulin Rouge

2007-02-08 [shinobi14]:
"If you have love in your life it can make up for a great many things you lack. If you don't have it, no matter what else there is, it's not enough." ~ Ann Landers

Whoever made this wiki is a genius, and obviously knows love very well. Thankyou x

2007-02-09 [zoloftzantac]: The wiki was [~*Astarte*~]'s good idea, I like what she has done with the place ;)

2007-02-09 [shinobi14]: Oh, along with the I Hate Hate wiki of course. They r both nice places to meet people who think like you... Especially if you're a hippy like me. ^_^

2007-02-10 [zoloftzantac]: heh i hate hate is mine, there are like sister wiki pages though ;) Things tend to be nicer here, sometimes debate turns into a fight over there by I try to moderate it :)

2007-02-10 [shinobi14]: Ahhh... Sorry to hear it.
You're a nice guy, to make a wiki like that.
Did you guys make them up together, or did you get the idea from one of them?
Dont know why im so curious. ^_^

2007-02-10 [zoloftzantac]: heh, I'll tell you the story. i hate hate came first. I made it as a responce to something someone told me. I was trying to talk about hate on the wiki page called i hate homosexuality. That person told me not to come back to that wiki and they said "I hate peopple who hate hate. So, I made that wiki as a direct answer to that.

[~*Astarte*~] was my real life next door neighbor at the time that she had the good idea to have a space that was more pro-love vs anti-hate ^__^

2007-02-10 [shinobi14]: Ahhhh... and thus, it became a legend. LOL.
Hehehe... hating people who hate hate? This person must have been driven by hate... not healthy. =/
Still, twas a good idea on both parts (you and [~*Astarte*~])

2007-02-10 [shinobi14]: Ive added my quote up there ^
Hope no-one minds...

2007-02-16 [~*Astarte*~]: [zoloftzantac] and [shinobi14] thank you both for your sweet comments! ^_^ [shinobi14] thank you for adding your quote! Everyone here is welcome to co-create this page of love! *Goes to bed singing, "What the world needs now is love sweet love..."* ^_^

2007-02-16 [shinobi14]: LOL you're welcome, [~*Astarte*~]. But i thought i was alone. I thought i was the only one who thought like this. I guess i'm not. XD (happy now)

2007-02-16 [shinobi14]: OK, i may have gone a bit overboard. It is my 2nd favorite quote. Sorry if its a bit too long, people. Take it down if it's a nuisance. X

2007-02-16 [kittykittykitty]: Awww I like it ^-^ I'm sure nobody will mind that it's a little longer than the others :D

2007-02-16 [shinobi14]: Thanks kitty. XD

2007-02-16 [catelf]: I would like the quote if it didn't remind me so much of a song I used to sing at school - 'love is something if you give it away... give it away... give it away... love is something if you give it away, you end up having more!'

Ouch. But the quote is nice. And rather more poetic.

2007-02-16 [shinobi14]: thankyou. XD

2007-02-18 [zoloftzantac]: heh, your school song reminds me of this

2007-02-18 [shinobi14]: ha! LOL
ZZ, you so crazy XP

2007-02-18 [zoloftzantac]: give it away now! ;)

2007-02-18 [shinobi14]: I mean, the hair would give it away anyway... XP
(only joking, i wish i had hair like yours)
But still you are pretty crazy... Granted that only crazy people have badges (yes, ive notcied) apart from [Ringbearer]...

2007-02-18 [zoloftzantac]: lol

2007-02-18 [shinobi14]: OMG!!! I know what song [catelf] is going on about ^_^
I used to sing that song in primary school XD

2007-07-09 [Bookwyrm]: -clings to [~*Astarte*~]- I haven't spoken to you in so long! I miss you, lady! -hugs- I have to say, in the time I've spent "away" from this wiki, I've come to appreciate it more. ^_^ Love is all there is, all there should be at least.

2007-07-09 [Bookwyrm]: And I completely love this quote: "Do everything with so much love in your heart that you would never want to do it any other way." -goes to put it on house-

2007-07-12 [Lyon Armonial the healer]:

i love you,
not only for what you are,
but for what i am
when i am with you.

i love you,
not only for what
you have made of yourself
but for what
you are making of me.

i love you
for the part of me
that you bring out;
i love you
for putting your hand
into my heaped-up heart
and passing over
all the foolish, weak things
that you can't help...
dimloy seeing ther,
and ofr drawing out
into the light
all the beautiful belongings
that no one else has looked
quiet far enough to find.

i love oyu because you
are helping me to make
of the lumber of my life
not a tavern,
but a temple;
out of the works
of my every day
not a reproach
but a song.

i love you
because you have done
more then any creed
could have done
to make me good,
and more than any fate
to make me happy.
you have done it
without a touch,
without a word,
without a sign.
you have done it
by being yourself

2007-07-12 [Lyon Armonial the healer]: "love" by roy croft

2007-07-12 [~*Astarte*~]: I've not ever heard that poem - it's beautiful! Thank you for sharing it!

2007-07-12 [Lyon Armonial the healer]: *smiles and bows* i heard it when i was at a wedding for a reminded me soo much of my mate that i kept it around

2007-07-12 [Lyon Armonial the healer]: hey jen...take a look through my diary some time if you like poems.

2007-07-12 [~*Astarte*~]: My hope is that you speak it to your mate as often as your heart reminds you to ... for so often in our busy lives, we forget to say those things that mean the most to us to those in our lives that mean the most to us ... Blessings to you and your mate

2007-07-12 [Lyon Armonial the healer]: *smiles* i tell her every day who much she means to me. *bows* thank you.

2007-07-12 [Lyon Armonial the healer]: well, i must be off for the night *waves* have a good night and sleep well.

2007-07-12 [~*Astarte*~]: Then you have learned at a young age how important it is to remind those we love how much they mean to us. You, your mate and little one (if I remember correctly, you have a little one) have a good night, too.

2007-07-12 [Lyon Armonial the healer]: *smiles and nods* two little ones and twins on the way. i had to learn or risk losing the one i love most again...i was not always a good man, and i try to attone for my behaviors in the past...but i will always remember them so i may remember what the consequences were.

2007-07-13 [~*Astarte*~]: Wow! Four young ones! You will be busy ... as will their mommy! We have all made mistakes in our pasts - not one of us has a slate that hasn't been written on ... the key is to learn from those things we might have done to hurt ourselves and/or others, forgive ourselves (that can be a big one), make amends where called for and move forward ...

2007-07-14 [Lyon Armonial the healer]: *laughs* at least my boys are smart and learn for the twins, well thank gods they're quiet ones! *nods* quite true about the past, although i dont think i will be able to forgive myself for what i did back then though i change myself for the better.

2007-07-14 [~*Astarte*~]: If the one you wronged has forgiven you, why is it you have the need to hold on to the attachment of not forgiving yourself? Punishing yourself over and over again is not productive, and not only hurts you, but believe it or not, it hurts the one you might have wronged, too. Just some food for thought spoken by someone who has had a *very* difficult time forgiving herself for something she did many years ago. You know in life, invariably we inadvertently hurt people - both people we love and people in general. That's just being human. It is when one intentionally and with malice and forethought hurts someone ... that's when there is a big problem. My sense of you and what you did falls into the first category - not the second. Remember you are human, and bound to make mistakes - as long as you learn from your mistakes, they are no longer mistakes, but lessons learned.

2007-07-14 [Lyon Armonial the healer]: *nods* ill take that into concideration. thanks..but i dont thimnk il be able to for a long time.

2007-08-13 [shinobi14]: *late comment* That, Lyon, is a lovely poem. =] Ill remember that one.

Brightest Blessings.

2007-08-15 [Lyon Armonial the healer]: i heard it at aedding...i loved made me think of luna

2007-08-15 [nicholas chavez]: i love love but sometimes i hate to love, message me if this makes sense to anybody

2007-08-15 [shinobi14]: I know what you mean, Mr Chavez. But whatever you go through can always be healed by love. =] Love heals all. =]

2007-08-15 [Bookwyrm]: Love is all. ^_^

2007-08-16 [shinobi14]: As it says in my mood, correct. ^-^

But it has took me 16 years to find it out. =]

2007-08-16 [Bookwyrm]: I always knew it. It's just taken me some time to remember. ^_~ I'm betting it's the same for you.

2007-08-16 [shinobi14]: Maybe we learn it as kids.. =] With all the Disney films you see in the youth teaching you about love, i think it is programmed into us. ^__^ So you may be right.

2007-08-16 [Bookwyrm]: Ahaha, well if you think so, it's possible. XD

2007-08-18 [~*Astarte*~]: jen's quote for the day ... "When the heart acts, it touches everything in the universe." ~ Murshid Samuel L. Lewis (Sufi Ahmed Murad Chisti)

2007-08-19 [shinobi14]: Lovely quote, Jen. =]

You truely do have quite a heart. ^___^

2007-08-19 [Bookwyrm]: It is beautiful. ^_^ It makes me think of several of the people I've met here. ^_^

2007-08-19 [~*Astarte*~]: aw, thank you, danny ^_^

2007-08-19 [~*Astarte*~]: me, too, traci ^_^

2007-09-25 [Midori]: *sniffles* Everyones gone!

2007-09-25 [Bookwyrm]: -tackles [Midori]- IS NOT! -huggle- ^_^

2007-09-26 [zoloftzantac]: ;)

2007-09-26 [shinobi14]: Nope. We are all here.

And if we aren't on Elfpack, we know we are all loving, in different sides of this great Earth, to try and spread a feeling. The greatest feeling in the world.

Of course, i prefer everyone to be online, too. ^__^

2007-09-26 [Bookwyrm]: -giggles- It is a little sad and lonely when no one's on Elfpack. But then, it leaves you opportunities to make new friends too! ^_^

2007-09-26 [Lyon Armonial the healer]: (or muck around and change your wiki's)

2007-09-26 [Bookwyrm]: Yeah that too. :P

2007-09-27 [shinobi14]: *cough* Traci! *cough* <3

2007-09-27 [Bookwyrm]: Whaa? What have I not done now? XD

2007-09-28 [shinobi14]: "Muck around and change your wikis". XD

Im kidding, Traci. <3

2007-09-29 [Bookwyrm]: But I have been! I've just been busy. T_T -sob sob whine-...-giggle- I know you are.

2007-10-01 [shinobi14]: Sheh. ^___^

2007-11-01 [~*Astarte*~]: From the site itself, "This is a humanitarian project - not in affiliation with any political agenda or religious belief. The goal of this endeavor is simply to offer and express love." I actually found the information on the inside back cover of a program guide from Amma's Summer Tour 2007 in Iowa, July 2-3

2007-11-01 [~*Astarte*~]: Hums to herself ..."What the world needs now, is Love sweet Love ..." <3 <3 <3

2007-11-02 [shinobi14]: Its the only thing that there's just too little of... =]

Not if we have anything to do with it!

2007-11-04 [~*Astarte*~]: I totally agree ... there most certainly is not enough love in this world we live in. I wonder though ... even if one truly loves - unconditionally - does it *really* matter? And if so, how do we *really* know? Sounding a bit pessimistic I suppose, and this forum is most definitely not the place for it. :|

2007-11-04 [zoloftzantac]: Oh, I think this is a fine place to ask questions. Loving is important, but it isn't enough by itself, we need to try to actually spread love to others instead of just giving it to them, if you know what I mean

2007-11-04 [~*Astarte*~]: Yes, I agree, this is a fine place to ask questions. If you reread my statement, I was referring to this forum not being the proper place for my sounding a bit pessimistic - my statement had nothing to do with asking questions. I don't believe you "give" love to someone ... I believe you "show" them through words, actions, deeds, acts of kindness ... I remember reading a statement from a well-known author (whose name escapes me at the moment) - he stated that love is an action, not a feeling ... reminds me of a Chinese Proverb I came across recently. "Words are mere bubbles of water, but deeds are drops of gold." 

2007-11-04 [shinobi14]: Ah, i disagree. I believe you can give love. For example, if you do show somebody love through an action or a deed, they will be filled with a loving feeling, and therefore a "giving" process. ^____^

But think people... How can we spread love to all the world? I mean, i try to be a very happy person, to make other people happy. And many other things like that... But how do we do it on a grand scale?

2007-11-05 [~*Astarte*~]: Ah Danny ... start with you! If each and every one of us took the time each day simply to smile more (think about the last time you smiled at a stranger - just because) or for those in relationship (or who are parents) when was the last time you took the time to really look deeply into your partner or child's (or children's) eyes, tell them you love them, and embrace them with such unconditional presence of being you almost (maybe you do) reach a state of euphoria (or for some nirvana)? Really Danny, I believe if you start with you, and I start with me, etc... this will lead to the grander scale. Does this make sense? I hope so, and should have prefaced by reminding that I am still healing from a head trauma (car accident) June 2007.

I understand what you say when you say you can give love - but then to me it makes love a "thing." (giving = thing) This way of thinking could just be the way my brain is processing right now ... I'm not sure. If the person you mentioned whom is filled with a loving feeling - that is theirs to own - for really Danny, we cannot make anyone feel anything - feeling is up to each individual. For example: you could say something hurtful to me (which I highly doubt you would do ^_^) - but if you did, my 'feeling(s)' are mine - I choose to feel what I feel - you cannot make me feel what I feel. Are you following me here? Maybe I'm just not explaining very well - which could very well be - doing my best though. ^_^

Speaking of love ... my partner is currently on a business trip in the Middle East and gone for a few weeks ... so my two youngest boys (and my newest addition - a 1/2 black lab, 1/2 whippet 11 month old rescue puppy) have been sleeping in my bed. To me, as a mom, there is nothing more intoxicating than burying my face in the necks of my boys (even my 18-1/2 year old if I tell him I need a "mom" fix!) and smelling their individual smells. *^_^* How is this connected with the above - this is an example of love - pure, simple and completely unconditional ... well, at least to this very proud mama anyway.

2007-11-05 [~*Astarte*~]: Since I'm on a roll (and my meds in the morning make me energetic!) ... the above I wrote regarding smiles, looking into eyes, and adding just simply calling someone (family member, friend, neighbor, etc.) to say hi - or to see if they need anything - this really can be done - and doesn't take much time at all. I am known to call a friend just out of the blue (or send an email or IM or such - but phone call is better) simply to say, "I'm calling just to let you know I'm thinking about you and to remind you that you are loved - by me!" I absolutely love doing this - I can hear the smile, and often times the giggles, and not only have I made a transformative difference for someone else, but for myself as well.

2007-11-05 [shinobi14]: That, my dear, is a very love-filled story. ^__^ I love it!

Okay, starting from the top, and working down. ;) The last time i did those things you mentioned was probably not that long ago. I love to greet strangers in the street, to admire nature, to be thankful for my friends, i give great pleasure in seeing others happy (couples, for example). In fact, just the other day, i went to Chester (a city near me) and went Free Hugging with a few friends. It filled me with that familiar funny feeling. ;) But yes, i agree. If we are all happy, then hopefully we could share the love around the whole world. For, as you probably know, love and happiness is contagious. I love smiling simply because most people smile back. So I don't stop smiling. =D Ever since about February.

Second paragraph: I know what you are trying to say, but in my opinion, you can give such feelings away, such as happiness, love, and others. I know what you mean however, when you say they sound like "things". These are just common English language faults. Not only are "love" and "happiness" feeling, they also happen to be nouns. Which are commonly referred to as "things". - And of course people do not have to feel the way I want them to feel, but in my opinion, moods are contagious. So, if you are feeling loving, then generally people feel more loved. <3

Third and last paragraph: And i have things like that, too. =] I love to watch nature in all of its glory and wonder. The natural beauty makes me filled with an intense happy feeling. I also find this feeling from my dogs, and my very close friends. *sighs* I don't think life would be worth living if I couldn't feel that feeling I get. "Life without love is no life at all" - Self Quote.

I do hope your partner will return safely from his trip. ^____^

2007-11-05 [shinobi14]: And now that Im on a roll, i've just remembered a message I sent to my friend [nevan] the other day. It was:

"You're amazing. Never forget that."

God, i love it. <3 Pure ecstasy to me. XP

2007-11-05 [~*Astarte*~]: Smiles - can you imagine what this world would be like without them? *shudder* There is an elder, High Priestess, in a Dianic Wiccan Community in the general area I live in (she is well-known and published so will leave her name out) ... she just recently started "Hugging Rituals" - because she felt (feels) there are too many people in this world (in this case women) who go without. I think it's such a cool idea! And, could easily be modified to fit any belief system (whether it be Wiccan or not). I did something that filled my heart with such love and joy for an elder, High Priestess, in the Dianic community who passed in August - Shekhinah Mountainwater. I read the journal (online with permission) of the High Priestess who administered her last rites. Included was Shekhinah's last wish ... that she never be forgotten - that the world would not forget her - that our community would not forget her. It came to me like a bolt of lightning - our elders, our High Priestesses, those witches (in this case women) who have come and passed - my Foremothers, should have an altar at every ritual co-created in our community. So I found a beautiful black and white picture of Shekhinah, had it copied onto the best photo paper I could find, found a silver (for protection) frame for it - and sent it along (with very trusted Priestesses) to the Autumn Equinox ritual held in our community on woman-owned land - out in a beautiful area of Sonoma County, CA. As I was told, a beautiful altar was created in her memory (and also in the memories of other elder High Priestesses who have already passed over to the Summerland). One of my dearest coven systers (I LOVE her dearly) ... spoke about Shekhinah, as she was present shortly after Shekhinah's passing, and at the memorial (burial). She shared that the ritual space was filled with such love and joy - just what Shekhinah would have wanted. All of this, simply because I remembered reading what someone had shared about her last wish. See, so it really does start with just you or me or the next person - one person *really* can make a difference. (As an aside, my coven syster, loved the picture so much that she offered to be its caretaker, and has placed it on the altars of several rituals since, including a HUGE Samhain Spiral Dance, and a ritual some of Shekhinah's friends recently held - just because.

Thank you for the safe return wishes - he'll be fine. The areas he is (and will be) in are fairly safe. But thank you - tis sweet of you! ^_^

2007-11-05 [~*Astarte*~]: Oops...! Forgot to respond to last paragraph regarding nature and natural beauty ... it is the biggest high (well, besides the births of my 3 boys!) I could ever imagine - just simply sitting, being, connecting with and feeling the interconnectedness in and with nature. And I am blessed to live in such an incredibly beautiful area - even just my backyard ... as I live out in the country. And prior to my accident, where I worked - pure heaven! My office was like a "hobbit house" as my boys called it - sat in the middle of redwoods - a creek nearby (her belly would swell every winter, and I could hear it from my office if I left the door open, which I did most frequently!) I would be visited by squirrels, rabbits, deer, an occasional scorpion (yes!), wild turkeys... and if I looked up in the air (or just listened while working) I could hear the hawks calling ... *sigh* I truly do miss it. Used to take me 7 minutes to hike down a hill just to get to my office from where I parked my car. Clean air, beauty all around ... so much to be grateful for.

2007-11-05 [~*Astarte*~]: If I might borrow your saying, "You're amazing. Never forget that!" ... this goes out to everyone in this forum! We are all amazing! Never forget it!

2007-11-07 [shinobi14]: Here here!! =D

Tee-hee. You sound a lot like me. XP

2007-11-08 [~*Astarte*~]: Maybe that's because I'm English? :p Or just someone who believes in the power of love, positive thinking (although difficult at times for even the most positive of thinkers) and most definitely a believer in the power of one's own ability to create/manifest that which is to be of the highest good ... :)

2007-11-08 [shinobi14]: I think it is both, but more the latter reason. ^____^

2007-11-09 [~*Astarte*~]: I can agree with that ^___^

2007-12-11 [~*Astarte*~]: December 11, 2007
What We Are Made Of:
Choose Love

Love is often presented as the opposite of fear, but true love is not opposite anything. True love is far more powerful than any negative emotions, as it is the environment in which all things arise. Negative emotions are like sharks swimming in the ocean of love. All things beautiful and fearful, ugly and kind, powerful and small, come into existence, do their thing, and disappear within the context of this great ocean. At the same time, they are made of the very love in which they swim and can never be separated. We are made of this love and live our whole lives at one with it, whether we know it or not.

It is only the illusion that we are separate from this great love that causes us to believe that choosing anything other than love makes sense or is even possible. In the relative, dualistic world of positive and negative, darkness and light, male and female, we make choices and we learn from them. This is exactly what we are meant to be doing here on earth. Underlying these relative choices, though, is the choice to be conscious of what we are, which is love, or to be unconscious of it. When we choose to be conscious of it, we choose love. We will still exist in the relative world of opposites and choices and cause and effect, and we will need to make our way here, but doing so with an awareness that we are all made of this love will enable us to be more playful, more joyful, more loving and wise, as we make our way. Ultimately, the choices we make will shed light on the love that makes us all one, enabling those who have forgotten to return to the source.

This world makes it easy to forget this great love, which is part of why we are here. We are here to remember and, when we forget to remember again, to choose love.

2008-01-05 [~*Astarte*~]: "When two hearts race both win!" ~ Author Unknown

2008-01-06 [~*Astarte*~]: The Fifth Annual Global Love Day is Thursday, May 1, 2008 ... What the world needs now is LOVE sweet LOVE!!!

2008-01-11 [shinobi14]: WOW! I had no idea there was an annual love day! *dances* Very exciting. XD

Although every day should be a love day... ¬¬

2008-01-14 [~*Astarte*~]: Yes, Danny, every day is love day! We, each and every one of us, can create/manifest that - I know you know this! I'm am working on a major project at both of the schools my younger sons attend - I am beyond excited to spread the LOVE!!! Did you notice the date of Global Love Day? Coincides with Beltaine! : )

2008-01-18 [shinobi14]: Oh yes I did! XD Dancing around the Maypole I will be, with ribbons... and spreading teh lurve. XD

2011-08-17 [Stephen]: Dusty comment box is dusty. =P

2011-08-21 [Bookwyrm]: /hugs it

2011-08-31 [kittykittykitty]: *sweeps away the dust*

2011-08-31 [Stephen]: Kitty, always cleaning up things. :3

2011-09-02 [Bookwyrm]: /bakes brownies

2011-09-02 [kittykittykitty]: Ohhhh they smell delicious :) Are you a good chef traci? My last few attempts at baking all ended in disaster xD Though it's still fun to do anyway

2011-09-03 [Stephen]: I suddenly get a mental image of a stove on fire and Kitty running around going "Oh noess! Shit, shit, shit!" -chuckles-

2011-09-04 [Bookwyrm]: a) I'm an excellent baker, I don't know how well of a cook I am though. I did make rotini pasta with a shrimp marinara sauce and sauteed mushrooms tonight, though. And the hubby sang praises about it, but I don't cook a lot. XD I'm scared to cook most of the time.

b) OMG. I lol'd.

2011-09-04 [Stephen]: Baking is fun! *glee* I don't like cooking, mostly meat, because I'm always worried I'll over/under cook it and it'll taste horrible/infect me with some virus. >.<

2011-09-04 [Bookwyrm]: LOL Meat isn't too bad if you get used to it. Mainly you want to make sure there's no blood running out of it. I usually have the hubby cook the meat and I cook all the side dishes and stuff. In fact he cooked the shrimp for the pasta tonight, I just cooked everything else. XD

2011-09-04 [Stephen]: Blood is gross. >D

2011-09-05 [Bookwyrm]: When it's in food especially. XD

2011-09-05 [Stephen]: Yar!

2011-10-21 [zoloftzantac]: yay, this wiki isn't sad and lonely <3

2011-10-21 [Stephen]: Wooah, ZZ, are you back?

2011-10-21 [Bookwyrm]: YES HE IS. /lubbs upon

2011-10-21 [zoloftzantac]: Hey Stephen, I'm kind of back, I haven't even thought about logging into Elftown, Elf12, Cathug, the music one the adult one and whatever else I forgot about by now.

I'm glad to see everyone here tho, EP was always my favorite anyways :)

2011-10-21 [Bookwyrm]: That's cause we're the best. :D

2011-10-21 [Stephen]: It's nice to see you around! :)

2011-11-16 [shinobi14]: Just popping in to say hi. Welcome back ZZ. It has been forever. =]

2012-02-22 [zoloftzantac]: *hugs everyone* crazy how time flys, 3 more months in the blink of an eye. I'm super busy working full time and going to college fulltime, sleeping part time and not much else ;)

2012-02-24 [Stephen]: Haha, yeah, that would be pretty busy. I'm glad to hear you're doing well. :D

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