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Updates 2008-07-12

Elfpack got several updates Saturday 2008-07-12. These are the main ones:

New buttons

The buttons are more 3D. The colour-scheme is the mixture of the prison and Australian themes of Elfpack. The grey is the prison, the yellow in the blue is the burning sun, the general background colour is sand and the buttons are wood. The colours came here because so many were wishing for colours.

The right column

The right column is totally re-organized. The important stuff is more to the top now. The bookmark-button is placed on top right instead of somewhere on the page.


There are generally less ads for logged in members now. You have a big ugly ad right on top of your house though, but those ads should be targetted to what you have written in your house, so it can't only be bad... (Says the greedy king who wants all your gold!)

Small stuff

You have a button for a random wiki-page, you can comment on a diary note in your own diary, you get hints if the one you're commenting on in a forum is a member of an other forum where you might want to place a reply, members automatically watch wiki-pages they comment on, you can watch the comments to polls, and there are many more estetic fixes, bigger textareas and such.

Last visitors

You now have to click on "Add me" to get added to the last visitor list, so you'll get fewer people there, but you'll know the ones you get have actually pressed that button. There is also a last visited page, so that people can see if you have been a good Elfpacker and visited many houses.


You now have preview-buttons so that you can check how the pseudo-HTML looks like before submitting it.

Mood history

Your mood-editing have moved to your house. But you'll get history of the previous moods your friends have had. So if someone writes "I went there", you can see it afterwards even if you weren't active at the site at that moment.

Updates 2008-07-28

You can invite people to a wiki-page! Everyone will only be invited once to a wiki-page, so there is no risk that anyone gets flooded with invitations from a single wiki-page even if everyone sends everyones invitations to it.

Orders of the wiki and member changes are in order of with the last update first now.

It's now easier for the crew to badge people.

Everything, especially the forums and the wiki-pages, is much faster now.

You have a list of "Interesting people:" down to the right. It's selected by looking at whom you are watching. If someone else watches the same person as you are, you'll have a chance of seeing someone who that person is also watching, but you aren't watching yourself. Or to make it simple: It shows someone that someone like you might have on watch.

Please comment on this page if something isn't perfect! There are probably loads of bugs and mis-features because the upgrade is so extensive.

Updates 2008-08-03

You now have the Mainstuff items on watch, unless you start to unwatch them. And the new messages and guestbook messages links only appear if you have something new there.

(Lots of small fixes...)

Updates 2009-01-18

You now have Rate Polls. You can rate them here:

Username (or number or email):


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2008-07-13 [Sister Creep]: Soon, EP will get updates for EVERYTHING you do. It will give live webcam broadcasts. And send reports telling when you use the bathroom. When you bathe. When you wipe your butt. Everything. :D

2008-07-13 [Wolfe In Chef's Clothing]: o.o NIFTY! XD O.o;

2008-07-13 [My Sky's The Limit]: LMFAO XD That'd be horrible.
Pretty soon, there'll be an EP IM o.o;
that'd actually be kick ass if you tihnk about it...
but then it'd be like myspac
eso bleh.

2008-07-13 [Eyes of the Reaper]: I love you, Hedda! Thank you so much for the re-vamp! ^-^ I love it!

2008-07-13 [entire parenthesis]: Now the pink has gone and its kinda half new half old i think the site is overall a lt better but i think the littier things have to be focused on and not these bigger chances.

2008-07-13 [Wolfe In Chef's Clothing]: I like it now that the pink is gone. Thats what was killing me @.@

2008-07-13 [entire parenthesis]: I do also think the side bar now looks a little untidy.

2008-07-13 [Eyes of the Reaper]: I like it more than how it was. It's more organized now.

2008-07-13 [Wolfe In Chef's Clothing]: XD

2008-07-13 [entire parenthesis]: Basically i think the wiki bit and the search for members should be below the stats and friends block

2008-07-13 [Eyes of the Reaper]: Why? Hasn't it always been at the top?

2008-07-13 [My Sky's The Limit]: My buttons are purple o.o; they never turned pink or anything like that...

2008-07-13 [Wolfe In Chef's Clothing]: My background was pink. My buttons are gold.

2008-07-13 [entire parenthesis]: Yes but the way it looks now would fit more in with the same colours further down

2008-07-13 [Eyes of the Reaper]: My buttons are purple/blue and my ep never turned pink. lol

2008-07-13 [entire parenthesis]: Mine are a dark sand colour and EP was only pink from like 8pm-11.30pm GMT time

2008-07-13 [Sister Creep]: I don't think blocked members should be able to submit their name to the last visitors list. Isn't that kinda begging for trouble?

2008-07-13 [Eyes of the Reaper]: Hmmm...that's a good question. o.o

2008-07-13 [My Sky's The Limit]: Aww I thought mine was the only one D': I don't feel special no mores.
Well they don't show up either way when they visit your page, so I don't think it matters.

2008-07-13 [Eyes of the Reaper]: lol Sorry, Cathy.

2008-07-13 [Sister Creep]: But they do show up now if they submit their name. I tested it.

2008-07-13 [My Sky's The Limit]: It's all potatoes <3
Serious? Dude, that's completely homo..

2008-07-13 [entire parenthesis]: if you go to someones house who has blocked you, you can add your name to last visitors Vicious is right.

2008-07-13 [ThatOneGuyJeff]: this update isnt bad i guess but whats really annoying is having to click that little button to be added to the last viewed on someone elses profile. i like having it so it auto did it cuz youd talk to random ppl that veiwed yours and such

2008-07-13 [Eyes of the Reaper]: I kind of like a stalker-ish sort of way... XD BWAHAHAHA! Yes! That's right--I cyber-stalk people. *smirk*

2008-07-13 [evil flying zombie]: i agree with [ThatOneGuyJeff]... the upgrade is fine even tho im not too fond of brown buttons :P. but i gotta say i dont really like havin to click the "add me" button. i know it probably cost a decent amount of money and took some time, and i really dont like to complain because this is a free site, but the upgrade could be better without it. i vote for removal of the add me button, everything else is pretty good :]

2008-07-13 [Retribution]: ok, so what's up with the sparkles on my name when I'm on my own house?

2008-07-13 [Pegasus' Fire]: I'm up for removal of the "add me" button too...
In fact, I wish it hadn't had been upgraded at all, I wouldn't really call it an upgrade...

But, what's done is done.

2008-07-13 [Sister Creep]: I think maybe there should be a vote on upgrades.

2008-07-13 [entire parenthesis]: The sparkles are because i think you have donated i have them on my house

2008-07-13 [evil flying zombie]: i completely agree with the vote thing

2008-07-13 [Legendary]: i agree with the voting we should vote 2 see if we keep the upgrades or go back 2 the elfpack we all new and enjoyed

2008-07-13 [My Sky's The Limit]: [Hedda] won't go back to the old EP, he already stated that.

2008-07-13 [Legendary]: well at least turn the right side stuff back 2 normal,and keep the collors there ok

2008-07-13 [My Sky's The Limit]: -shrugs- Just repeating what he said. We'll see what happens.

2008-07-13 [Legendary]: yea i hope he does me and my friends are confused

2008-07-13 [Hedda]: [Sister Creep]: "I don't think blocked members should be able to submit their name to the last visitors list. Isn't that kinda begging for trouble? "

If they couldn't be able to do that, they would know that they are blocked, and that isn't good either.

2008-07-13 [entire parenthesis]: Well you could tell you were blocked before by just looking at their last visitors and if you werent on the list then they had blocked you and i found that to be good atleast then you knew this way you wont know at all and to me i think thats worse.

2008-07-13 [Hedda]: [Legendary]: The right side was just horrible before. There are probably some things to improve now, but I'll not listen to "I want it as before!".

As far as I can tell, it's the "Online members" and "moods" people want easier access too. I'll see what I can do about that.

2008-07-13 [entire parenthesis]: They new look of the menus at the side is better but personally i think it looks out of sync with itself. Like i mean the Online friends elfpack status and last logins should be above the wiki stuff but below the search for members and wiki's.

2008-07-13 [Hedda]: Now there are Online and Mood-link up to the right.

2008-07-13 [My Sky's The Limit]: Thank you [Hedda]! :D

2008-07-13 [entire parenthesis]: The ads by google are above the online friends and elfpack status. Should it not be below?

2008-07-13 [evil flying zombie]: hey, ive got an idea for the "add me" button.. how about instead of adding yourself to the list, you make it a "remove me" button..? i mean, if you think about it, most people dont click it cause they're just lazy. honestly, im a bit lazy and dont like having to click it :P

2008-07-13 [Sister Creep]: That's actually a pretty good idea. That's really my only problem. The new layout is great other than the "add me" button. Good job, [Hedda]. :)

2008-07-13 [evil flying zombie]: :]
i think [Hedda] should at least give it a try since we are all still kinda getting use to all the changes... that way if it doesnt really work so great, it isnt a big deal ^-^

i have to say tho, i do like the preview thing for the description :] .. but im still waging war on the "add me" button lol

2008-07-13 [entire parenthesis]: I am quite miffed over where he got the idea for that it just seems really random because no one will be arsed to press the button i know i cant be and its just gonna hinder meeting new people which is surely the point

2008-07-13 [evil flying zombie]: yeah, hopefully something gets worked out so everyone's happy even tho that'll probably never happen lets just try to make the majority of elfpackers happy :]

2008-07-13 [entire parenthesis]: That being said there will still be a group of people who wont be pleased. Like about 16 people have added comments to this wiki but theres something like 2,500 people who log in like once a week that is not a good representation of everyone on here really is it everyone else might really love it.

2008-07-13 [evil flying zombie]: yeah, i know and im tryin to think of those people who might love it.. thats why i suggested making it a "remove me" button instead of completely getting rid of it.
i know no matter what happens, some people are gonna like it and some people are gonna hate it..

2008-07-13 [Hedda]: The last visitor list was a privacy problem. And if I allowed people to select "Add me on all visitor lists", then the owner of the visitor-list wouldn't know if someone has only accidentally pressed their name or actually taken time to add themself to the list.

It's better to use another way to find people.

Fake is still without the "Add me!" button by the way. But that site is filled with stalkers and people wanting to be stalked...

2008-07-13 [Hedda]: [entire parenthesis] "The ads by google are above the online friends and elfpack status. Should it not be below? "

Press "Refresh" and there is a 90% chance it goes away. <img:zabuN-gif.gif>

I'm not sure what to do with the ads actually. Those ads are maybe just annoying and don't give anything positive (read: money for me).

2008-07-13 [evil flying zombie]: i can see your point there, but if someone did accidentally go to a page and didnt mean to, then they could just remove themselves from the visior list.
oh well, either way im probably gonna get use to it lol

2008-07-13 [entire parenthesis]: Why would anyone care about accidentally going to someones page?

No offence or anything.

2008-07-13 [nevan]: The ads at the top of the house seem smaller than they were to start with, which is good ^_^ Still, I don't think I'll be clicking on any of them anytime soon :P I think people (including me) were all a bit shocked by the sudden changes and so went to automatic 'WTF?!' mode >_>

2008-07-13 [entire parenthesis]: Yeah Very true if there had been a little build up to it people might have reacted better.

2008-07-13 [Eyes of the Reaper]: Well, if any of you go on elftown--they've switched it up a bit too. So, when I saw that, I figured EP must be next, it was just a matter of time.

2008-07-13 [entire parenthesis]: I will takes a lookie i have elftown aswell :D

2008-07-13 [Eyes of the Reaper]: I noticed it about...well, last time I got on there. My name on there is suicidaleternalx so...whenever that says I was last on is when I noticed it. lol

2008-07-13 [Crazy-Lord]: Uhmm how could change the colours?
cause i like the original colours more

The current colours is not what i want to see...

2008-07-13 [Legendary]: well ilearned 2 live with it so

2008-07-14 [nevan]: Is it just my computer, or is the grey background back? If so, yay! :D The grey looks quite nifty with the coloured buttons really :3

2008-07-14 [entire parenthesis]: About 3 hours after the new stuff came in he went back to the grey background

2008-07-14 [Legendary]: yea it looks better now

2008-07-14 [Revolution Is My Name]: I agree with evil flying zombie, i think a remove me button would be better than the add me button. Great changes otherwise though

2008-07-14 [Legendary]: i agree as well

2008-07-14 [Sister Creep]: I still think maybe making a poll about it on the main page might be a good idea.

2008-07-14 [Legendary]: well that is a good idea howevr what will that solve itll just create more people who dont like those changes its a visioos sickle

2008-07-14 [Sister Creep]: ...that comment made no sense whatsoever.

2008-07-14 [Legendary]: yea it did this will turn into a vicious cycle

2008-07-14 [Pegasus' Fire]: I agree, it didn't make any sense. And by the way, it's vicious cycle...if that's what you meant...

2008-07-14 [Legendary]: yea srry was in kinda of a hurry

2008-07-14 [Sister Creep]: Not trying to be rude...but... "visioos sickle" doesn't seem like something that was spelled horribly due to being in a hurry.

2008-07-14 [Legendary]: i was like leanin off the computer 2 reach the phone and my hands meesed up

2008-07-14 [evil flying zombie]: well since its gonna be a vicious circle no matter what, then we should at least be able to try the remove me button idea... like i said before, we're all still kinda gettin use to the new changes so if it isnt a good idea then it wont be such a big deal

2008-07-14 [Legendary]: yes i agree with the button idea

2008-07-14 [ThatOneGuyJeff]: id like to try this out too. seems like a great idea

2008-07-14 [Legendary]: i agree

2008-07-14 [evil flying zombie]: well since there isnt a poll or anything yet to vote on it, ima vote here lol

"Remove Me" button

2008-07-14 [Legendary]: all in favor

(nick godfrey) i

2008-07-15 [Orochimaru]: not i. too stupid. people get a little mad and depressed and remove them selves then it takes weeks to get back in.

2008-07-15 [evil flying zombie]: no, i think your confused.. not removing themselves from elfpack, removing themselves from the last visitors list on people's pages :P

2008-07-15 [Rasockie45]: Change the color the gold/brown looking color is ugly..change the color please.

2008-07-15 [evil flying zombie]: please, for the love of god, change the add me button... i havent had a new visitor since the upgrade and its makin me really sad :[
ive tried goin to people's pages and adding my self to their visitor list and ive tried starting conversations with people, but since that damn add me button was put on there, my conversations, and visitors, and meeting new people has gone down by like 99.99999999999999%
i know its suppose to be for the best or whatever but i believe its gonna really hurt EP :[ and i dont want that, i love this place.. ive been here for like 3 years and i use to always talk to people and people use to always talk to me but since the upgrade it has pretty much stopped :[
im a very sad elfpacker :[ :[ :[
im completely fine with everything else, but that add me button is kickin my ass...

2008-07-15 [entire parenthesis]: I know i still cant grasp what use that button has it hinders the main function of this kind of site and thats to talk to and meet new people.

2008-07-15 [evil flying zombie]: yeah, i asked [Hedda] about the remove me button, and if he could put up a poll or something so we could vote on it and this is what he told me..

[Hedda]People don't get the reason for why it works as it does now. A remove me button doesn't solve the fact that people are freaking out because some unwanted person visited their house.

It's not that much use to have a poll if I don't care about what it shows, as I know that people are voting without knowing what they are voting for.

2008-07-15 [entire parenthesis]: Those people really a bunch of tards who cares if someone you dont like visits your house block them and they can't do jack shit anyway and if there is someone who would freak you out when they went onto your house you'd block them anyways but now even with a block that person can submit their name which they couldnt before.

2008-07-15 [Legendary]: i agree

2008-07-17 [Raiyr]: I t'inks the only thing I'm not really satisfied with is having to scroll half-way down the page to view your online friends. Something I s'pose I could learn to live with though, lol, other than that, the upgrade is rather nice ^_^

2008-07-17 [Legendary]: i agree

2008-07-17 [Rasockie45]: i disagree, i like the old way better i mean they could had try n add like a lil messenger to this thing so we dont have to wait along time for the reply message, n they need to change the color.

2008-07-17 [My Sky's The Limit]: I stated that already [Rasockie45] :\ It'd be just like myspace if that happened.

And at this point, I don't think [Hedda] cares what we think about EP now. He adds what he wants to add and takes away what he wants. If I were him, I'd be a little annoyed about everyone complaining about wanting the old way back after all the work he did.

2008-07-17 [entire parenthesis]: Yeah, Myspace, BEBO, TAGGED, Facebook are all a pile of wank a lot of the time they over complicate things and most of the things they do get in the way of social networking, the only one i've seen that is any good is tagged.

Also myspace isnt cool enough to handle us.

2008-07-18 [evil flying zombie]: lol yeah, i have a myspace but all my friends are being douche bags and wont even message me so i have to talk to them first.. which i hardly ever do anyway :P
i like EP a lot better cause people actually talk here :D

ive gotten use to the changes for the most part, still tryin to get use to the add me button tho .. oh well, even with the add me button this place is easily 1,000,000 times better than myspace

i wish there was a way to give Elfpack a coolpoint lol XD

2008-07-21 [kittykittykitty]: I like the changes ^^ It looks a little cleaner now and.. my name sparkles! :O

Great job [Hedda] :)

2008-07-21 [entire parenthesis]: I like the sparkles too they make me smile little droplets of joy :D

2008-07-23 [MadHatress]: I'm aware of the PW protecting thing but...
I was thinking that the random wiki search isn't the best Idea...
granted; there are some awesome wikis out there that should be discovered more easily, but there are people out there (other than myself) who would much rather just ask to see wiki pages, rather than click the 'random wiki button' and hope for something good.

((don't get me wrong, that was pretty crafty...))

2008-07-23 [Eyes of the Reaper]: O.o' I use that button all the time when I'm bored. I get a laugh out of some things people have made. XD

2008-07-24 [Orochimaru]: eh...random porn...ewwwww.

2008-07-24 [nevan]: Just one question - I can't find the upload a file button on the bottom of wiki pages where it used to be (I should have it since my privs allow me to do that.) Where has it gone? o.O

2008-07-24 [Eyes of the Reaper]: To the rightside of the page, with the watchers and version of the page, yadda yadda. All of that stuff is over there together.

I had a hard time finding it at first myself. :)

2008-07-24 [nevan]: Ah, I see. Thankies! :D

2008-07-24 [Eyes of the Reaper]: You're welcome. ^-^

2008-07-29 [MadHatress]: one other thing...

I don't know if it's just the way I'm clicking and navigating around here, but I'm having wiki comment reminders NOT pop up quite a bit more frequently...

2008-07-29 [Orochimaru]: its been happening to me too...

2008-07-29 [Hedda]: This poped up for me, so it works now. Elftown did have a problem for 4 hours yesterday that new comments didn't get reported, but I thought Elfpack didn't got that problem, but that was apparently wrong.

2008-07-30 [Mongoose.]: nice job on the upgrades
for sure!

2008-07-30 [MadHatress]: alright...and thanks from all of us, I'm sure.


2008-07-30 [Legendary]: yea thanks alot

2008-07-31 [Orochimaru]: ...


2008-09-03 [Legendary]: wh meep,why not gleep

2008-09-04 [entire parenthesis]: Because meep is like a noise someone might make. Whereas gleep is a silly noise.

2008-09-04 [Legendary]: ic ic well i like gleep

2008-09-04 [Rasockie45]: but nick loves me way more

2008-09-04 [Legendary]: gleep gleep gleep

2008-09-16 [Orochimaru]: ...

2008-09-16 [entire parenthesis]: we dont tend to ask

2008-09-16 [Rasockie45]: Hold up i never said nick loves me more cause i dont talk in this one i talk in the chatter box, ??wtf someone is either hacking my account or something going on?

2008-09-16 [entire parenthesis]: We dont tend to care.

2008-09-16 [Rasockie45]: uh i wasnt talking to u entire parenthesis

2008-09-16 [entire parenthesis]: If you must know, your post when you said "but nick loves me way more" it didnt say that to begin with and then it changed recently ish.

And i know you werent but random wiki butting it funneh

2008-10-05 [Rasockie45]: okey then, well i say this place needs an automatic delte button to high light everything n deletes them

2008-10-05 [MadHatress]: I was just thinking about that.
You're talking about a button for messages right? One that checks them all so they can be deleted?

2008-10-05 [entire parenthesis]: Why?

2008-10-05 [Rasockie45]: so we dont have to keep checking them 1 by 1 when 1 simple button can do it all, cause some of us do like delteing all messages n strting a new one.

2008-10-06 [entire parenthesis]: Why not just not delete them?

2008-10-06 [MadHatress]: what if you want to delete the first page of messages, and don't want to click each individual check box?
Having a box labeled "Delete all" would make things move more swiftly

2008-10-06 [Legendary]: yes i agree that actually is a good idea,cause i have messages in hear dating back 2 05 and i still am 2 lazy 2 delete them all!

2008-10-06 [Rasockie45]: hmm.........*ignores [Legendary] comments well i got too many messages so i wanna delte all tht come to the present

2008-10-06 [Legendary]: hey im just as eligable for this as u r cassie

but yes tht would be a good addition

2008-10-06 [Rasockie45]: i just ignoring ur comment thts all*

2008-10-06 [Legendary]: um ok whtever,id like 2 see tht added and cassie..........never mind good night all

2008-10-06 [Rasockie45]: *its just me rping saying i ignore wut he says* ya can talk to him if u want

2008-10-06 [entire parenthesis]: I suppose it would make things go faster but why bother deleting old messages?

Wow mature. Having a poorly spelt argument on a public wiki.

2008-10-06 [Rasockie45]: ..not arguing if we were arguing he be back in the hospital again.....but cause maybe theres some stuff u dont wanna reread so just delete them n clicking 1 by 1 takes forever

2008-10-06 [Legendary]: yes daniel,dont be so nosey we rnt arguing atall,and yes a delete button is a good idea

2008-10-06 [entire parenthesis]: Why would you go through your old messages anyway?
Why would you need to delete them?
It's not as if you have to go through all your old messages before you can read the new ones.

It's not really being nosey if you do it in a place all can see.

2008-10-06 [Rasockie45]: well a delete button is good so we can get rid of all the messages we dont want no more....

2008-10-06 [entire parenthesis]: LOL I got that, but why wouldn't you want them after like a day they'd be like a few pages of messages back you wouldn't see them again.

2008-10-06 [Rasockie45]: i have 400 n something old old beginning messages for when i strted here i want gone.......

2008-10-06 [entire parenthesis]: Yes but why? I have like 14,000 messages on here,idont care.

2008-10-06 [Rasockie45]: yea well u may not i do.....n its my reason why to care if i got tht many or not....its jsut dont need alot of messages in my page, so i would love to have a delete click all button, n we can take it for a vote too

2008-10-06 [entire parenthesis]: and some very bad english later i have no idea what you said.

2008-10-06 [Rasockie45]: cause ur in the uk....

2008-10-06 [entire parenthesis]: Erm that makes no difference lol. It's still the same language. You realise im english and your speaking english right? A language we gave you. If i cant read it, its your fault.

2008-10-06 [Rasockie45]: not if u cant read it just means u cant understand the way i talk cause i talk lil differently from the way people type..

2008-10-06 [Hedda]: [Rasockie45]: What [entire parenthesis] is saying is that you should put some more effort in how you type. "u", "n", "tht", "jsut" and "lil" are simply not fun to try to read.

But comments here should be about the updates, so just think about it and don't babble about it here.

2008-10-06 [entire parenthesis]: Well said [Hedda].

In the last update the way the mood function works was changed, can there not be a box for it at the side like there used to be, with the find member and find wiki box. I liked just being able to type it straight in. Since the new method was introduced i've hardly changed my mood since. Meh it's a very meager point i know and improbably the only one who cares.

2008-10-06 [Rasockie45]: well its just abbreviations of the words thats all...but gotcha hedda...but a delete all click button would be nice cause it'll make deletion lot faster.

2008-10-06 [Hedda]: You don't have to delete your messages and I'll not make it easier to do pointless stuff.

2008-10-06 [Rasockie45]: hedda, what u dont get is some of us do wanna clear out all our messages, as well it will make it faster cause then all u gotta do is click two buttons, the delete all button n the submit

2008-10-06 [MadHatress]: Agreed.
but, as this page states, it's a suggestion page. It'd be great to have, but it's up to him and/or the crew in the end...

2008-10-06 [Legendary]: true tht

2008-10-06 [MadHatress]: ..."that"...

2008-10-06 [Legendary]: oh sorry "that"

2008-10-06 [MadHatress]: thank you ^^

2008-10-06 [Legendary]: your welcome

2008-10-07 [entire parenthesis]: Basically [Rasockie45] the point is, why waste time, money and effort incorporating one new function into Elfpack, that only a very limited number of people with benefit from and isn't a needed feature and why waste all that time, money and effort into doing something that only maybe a dozen people may use or get use from when [Hedda] can spend the same amount of time, money and effort on something that benefits 1000 people.

Also no one really wants to clear out their old messages, it's not as if they're in the way at all. But i suppose malcontents wouldn't be malcontent if they had nothing to bemoan.

In other news away from people with questionable brain capacities. Does anyone else think Elfpack is really missing anything vital?

2008-10-07 [MadHatress]: I don't think they intended for that statement to seem 'vital' in anyway...

2008-10-07 [Legendary]: yes indeed

2008-10-07 [entire parenthesis]: *is confused*

2008-10-07 [Legendary]: if your logged in arent you on my friend list daniel?

2008-10-07 [entire parenthesis]: I was but then you ended the relationship. About a week ago maybe.

2008-10-07 [Legendary]: oh i apologize it must have been un-intenchinal

2008-10-07 [entire parenthesis]: LOL, unintentional.

I wasnt surprised, though. I have been fairly wankerish towards you.

2008-10-07 [Legendary]: indeed but it was...........that word

2008-10-07 [entire parenthesis]: Like i said i wasnt surprised you ended it though, i had been expecting it.

2008-10-07 [Legendary]: im sorry

2008-10-07 [entire parenthesis]: Tis okay.

2008-10-07 [Legendary]: agreed i shall send you another

2008-10-07 [entire parenthesis]: If you like.

Has anyone noticed that when you send a friend relationship that no matter what you pick whether it be friend, enemy or lover it makes no difference?

2008-10-07 [Legendary]: i dont think so

2008-10-07 [entire parenthesis]: You havent seen that when you send a friend request it asks you to pick like friend, enemy, lover, cousin or family but no matter what you pick it makes no difference.

2008-10-07 [Legendary]: yes indeed it does

2008-10-07 [entire parenthesis]: Are you agreeing or do you see it making a difference?

2008-10-07 [Legendary]: i agree

2008-10-07 [entire parenthesis]: I was wondering if [Hedda] intended for it to make a different but kinda forgot about it.

2008-10-07 [Legendary]: yes maybe you should ask

2008-10-07 [entire parenthesis]: I have technically by posting here.

2008-10-07 [Legendary]: cool

2008-10-07 [Hedda]: What you name the relation is only a note to the ones listing your relations. It's still a relation.

2008-10-07 [Legendary]: i see

2008-12-14 [~forgotten~]: =[

2008-12-16 [entire parenthesis]: *Offers you a Banana*

2008-12-16 [~forgotten~]: XP Me?

2008-12-16 [entire parenthesis]: *nods*
Everyone likes pie.

2008-12-16 [~forgotten~]: XP
Yeah haha

2009-01-06 [MadHatress]: I've been thinking...
I'd like to know who's watching some of my wiki-pages at times...
just thought I'd throw that out there

2009-01-06 [entire parenthesis]: Well you can see how many people are watching your wiki pages.
A rough way to work out who those are, would be to check how many are watching it and then post new content and a new comment and then see how many comment on that new stuff and see how many write something and check it against how many people it says are watching and you will get some idea of who's watching it.

2009-01-06 [MadHatress]: That doesn't always work because not everyone posts a comment in return.
usually I can tell who's watching my the people I send the link to and who don't reply period, but there are always those that just...appear, and you won't know who they are, even if you 'talk' to them

2009-01-06 [entire parenthesis]: Add a password to your wikipage and then all those who ask for it will be all those who are watching/care.

2009-01-06 [MadHatress]: that still leaves people watching my page. If they don't want anything to do with it, I should be able to delete them from it or something

2009-01-06 [entire parenthesis]: They arent watching it on purpose though, they message and it automatically makes them a watcher, and you're that bothered about the number?
They might be watching it but they wont be able to get onto it, so what would it matter.

2009-01-07 [Hedda]: [MadHatress]: No, you should not be able to tell what others can watch. Watching is a service to the one watching, not to the one publish the stuff.

Anyhow: In the pipeline there is a feature that will make it possible to become a "fan" of a wiki-page. The fans of a wiki-page will be possible to list and you can list what wiki-pages someone is a fan of.

But what wiki-pages someone is watching is their private secret.

2009-01-08 [MadHatress]: Why?
Then, why have the counter for the number of watchers?

2009-01-08 [entire parenthesis]: Shits and giggles.

2009-01-08 [MadHatress]: don't remember asking you...(don't mean to be rude)

2009-01-17 [poopbucket]: O_O

2013-08-19 [Morgoth]: I still get an internal server error when I click the rate poll.

2013-09-06 [Stephen]: I did mention that.

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