2005-06-15 [Tear]: Well, putting comments like that in the volunteer box are not how you go about becoming one. Just go around asking people if they need help with their sections or something. Either that or suck up to the point where they give you a spot to keep you quiet.

2005-06-15 [redheadedterror]: haha got it..:P

2005-06-19 [FireGypsy]: why did i get deleted?

2005-06-19 [Sunrose]: Because you have a toggery badge now for the work you do and I don't believe you do any other jobs :)

2005-06-19 [FireGypsy]: im a staff member of the giffie-pet store... and in EP independant but that doesnt count since they are deleting my section *growls*

2005-06-19 [Sunrose]: Giffie-pet store has a badge too, ask [Big Brother] about it because I didn't know who to give the badge :)

2005-06-20 [FireGypsy]: ahhhuh!!! lol thankies =)

2005-06-24 [Tear]: I am guessing that you did not read my earlier comment. Look up ^^^

2005-06-24 [Vader]: Ah whoops I'll delete the comment pronto.

2005-06-24 [Dwemer]: hehe!

2005-06-24 [Tear]: Don't worry about it.

2005-06-24 [Vader]: I got a little idea. If there was a wiki where people who wanted to help out put their names down and people who needed help would pick them from that...?

2005-06-24 [Dwemer]: I had that idea long ago, Elfpack Vacancies.

2005-06-24 [Tear]: There is for the EP independent already. most of the time, if you are needed somewhere else, the peolpe that are in need will search out who they want.

2005-06-24 [Dwemer]: It's like this, most of the times even before there is a job, people decided who to take.

2005-06-24 [Vader]: How would they go about deciding though?

2005-06-24 [Tear]: Let me rephrase that for Joost, as it didn't quite make sense. The person is already chosen ahead of time for a position that is open, more often then not.

2005-06-24 [Dwemer]: Ah thanks AJ ^_^ That's right. *nods*

2005-06-24 [Vader]: But how do they choose the person?

2005-06-24 [Dwemer]: They are just friends with him/her. Or they just asked once, and were being put on a waiting list.

2005-06-24 [Tear]: Depends on what they are looking for, sometimes it is trial and error with certain members, sometimes other members recomend the person for the position. Sometimes it is just a person that helps out anyway, like Joost and myself, who get asked to fill a certain position

2005-06-24 [Dwemer]: *nods* So making that wiki, I'm not sure it will be a good idea, what do you think AJ?

2005-06-24 [Vader]: OK so what I need to do is get in with the elfpack "Crew" then dont I? Thanx guys cya.

2005-06-24 [Tear]: I would decide against it, because then we would have to go through all those thingies, like we have to do for EPI Wannabes. Too many entries, to the point where none of us look there anymore.

2005-06-24 [Vader]: Oh I'm confused now, maybe I'll just donate and that'll be my contribution to this grey-haven...

2005-06-24 [Dwemer]: Yes, but don't force yourself in it.

2005-06-24 [Vader]: Nah, I got paid this week, PayPal registration here I come! YEEHA!

2005-06-24 [Dwemer]: ^_^ whaeva!

2005-06-24 [Tear]: Aye, that works too. And Joost, scratch the idea of a page for that, too many people would send applications. Vader check out the EPI someone always needs help there, like myself.Send me a PM later, and I will get back to you about a job, okay?

2005-06-24 [Vader]: But I thought u said u didnt check it anymore...?       OK I'll message u later on ^_^ Thanx

2005-06-24 [Tear]: I am saying check EPI not the wannabe's page. EP Independent is the monthly newletter we put out.

2005-06-24 [Vader]: Goodey less confused now ^_^

2005-06-26 [Skadia]: Hmmm... Kewl.. Hi [Dwemer]. ^-^ Myuu. Suprised you're not a volunteer yet.. o.O Interesting. ^-^

2005-06-27 [Tear]: Surprised? There aren't a lot of people that should be up there.

2005-06-27 [RabidSphinx]: and alot that shouldn't be...*shrugs*

2005-06-27 [Tear]: Aye, that too. I am happy though, I don't really care if I am up there. The whole point IS to help out. A badge makes no difference.. That is why I kind of lurk around when I help, except with EPI.

2005-06-27 [RabidSphinx]: you sound like someone that has disillusioned yourself

2005-06-27 [Tear]: And you are giving me an attitude why?

2005-06-27 [Dwemer]: I'm no volunteer because every section I work in, has its own badge, I generaly help around here and there, but not as much as these guys. *points volunteers list*

2005-06-27 [Dwemer]: [Big Brother] is the current leader of Giffie-pet store, I think you should talk to him and ask.

2005-06-27 [RabidSphinx]: well, see i *used* to be a volunteer for the Giffie-pet Store, Trivia, Newbie help, but i was "bumped" from those...trivia my badge was taken away, but i could live with that, i wasn't helping *that much* currently, but helped when i could, when i knew enough about the voted topic to BE of help...and the pet store i watched, but was bumped from because i didn't gossip on the wiki enough...

2005-06-27 [Dwemer]: Well, I really recommend you speak with [Big Brother] about this, since he is leader of both Trivia and Giffie-pet store.

2005-06-27 [Whim]: Don't worry too much about it, Tear. You're probably fairly deserving of a volunteer badge simply because you are typically very willing to help out in most aspects of EP. Rainedrop just doesn't understand the concept of helping others selflessly.

2005-06-27 [Nevermore.]: hahaha!!!

2005-06-27 [Tear]: Lol. I am just here for the ride, like I said. And Whim, whatever happened to the toggery thing? You said something about organizing a tournament, but never got around to giving details. Also, are you still giving Togs to Kate for payment for people on the EPI or was that just a one time thing?

2005-06-27 [Whim]: The tournaments have come together. In fact, the second tournament is starting soon...if it hasn’t started already.  You’re still welcome to help if someone can use you. The shortage of workers is kind of at an end since we got things more organized.

2005-06-27 [Whim]: As for those togs to the EPI, we’ll see what happens, but as of right now, the committee isn’t happy with the EPI as it stands so we will not pay for an inferior product, meaning that when it gets into shape, we may reconsider donating the togs.

2005-06-27 [De'ladrei]: *mutters* and to think you were in the comic strip ^_-...no wait i think you still might be...*wanders off to check*

2005-06-27 [Tear]: Yeah, I understand, i was just wondering what happened to that. I am thinking about having my own tournament soon, but would you be able to have the bracket on one of the toggery pages?

2005-06-27 [Whim]: The committee will help with any player created tournament because we encourage the players to seek out ways to play outside of the official tournaments. We'll donate prizes and such, but of course you wouldn't be able to gain ranking in unofficial tournaments.

2005-06-27 [Whim]: Oh, and for the record, the EPI does look better than it did a few weeks ago. If everyone continues to work together and listen to eachother like they should, I think it can get back on track.

2005-06-27 [De'ladrei]: (thank you) and now i cant find what i did with the scripts >.< ah well

2005-06-27 [Tear]: Hopefully we will pull together. I will see what I can do as far as organizing my own tournament, and see if I have time for it, because I have to plan around my work at the EPI

2005-06-27 [Whim]: Well, I believe a few people have suggested doing it before, but I've yet to see the results. I think that anyone who's going to take on such tasks should try to get a few people to help them. Don't try to do it all by yourself.

2005-06-27 [Tear]: I'll get a crew. Possibly start a division in the Toggery page.

2005-06-27 [Whim]: Well, I always liked the idea of having different “corporations” who become big enough to accumulate their own togs so that the individual corporations would be able to buy their own cards and such and then possibly sponsor a player or their own to participate in official tournaments.

2005-06-27 [RabidSphinx]: i have helped people selflessly all my life and i do enjoy it, but watching *others* get credit for MY work is what pisses me off...it happens too often in my life, and on this website, it was pissing me off...

2005-06-27 [Whim]: It’s not selfless when you expect praise.

2005-06-27 [RabidSphinx]: i don't *expect* praise when i help, but when praise is handed out and given to the wrong people i get pissed....even if it is not me, but others i get pissed. give onto those what they deserve.

2005-06-27 [Tear]: Whim, I like the way you are thinking. Question for you, how about this, I host my own tournament, and the winner gets entered into a tournament that you host. If I can get enough people to host or play, then I could take the top 4 or five from mine, and have them play against the next winners of the second official tournament? did that make any sense to you?

2005-06-27 [Whim]: right, that’s still not selfless. Helping selflessly is helping and not caring who takes credit as long as the whoever you aimed to help did benefit from the aid.

2005-06-27 [RabidSphinx]: fine, i help nearly selflessly (since i don't feel like fighting over something stupid) but people still should get what they are due......

2005-06-27 [Tear]: And we could pair up tournaments. Like you have division "a" and I take division "b", and when we have a tournament, we have players register, or have the classified now. Have a tournament for them, in both divisions, and then pair the top few together and have them play against eachother?

2005-06-27 [Whim]: makes sense...hehe. But we have a sort of competition of winners coming up anyway. Now, people participating in unofficial tournaments could possibly be a part of an invitational tournament. It wouldn’t necessarily be against the winners of the official tournys or anything like that, but it would be an official tournament where anyone with an invitation would be guarenteed a spot. We usually limit the number of contestants that can participate based on first come first serve.

2005-06-27 [Whim]: hehe...we have a lot of special things already planned for toggery that are kind of in that area, tear. Trust me when I say that the committee and I are several steps ahead of everything else.

2005-06-27 [Tear]: But the invitationals would be fairly small. I like the different divisions thing though. That would be fun, so we can have more of a rivalry, because that always makes the game more fun

2005-06-27 [Tear]: Look at all this, I think I am being original, and here I am getting told that someone else already came up with the idea. God i feel slow.

2005-06-27 [Whim]: And rainedrop, yes, people should giv e credit where credit is due, but they’re less likely to give it if you annoy them since complaining takes the focus off the goodness of your heart. Keep helping without complaining about it and you’ll eventually get noticed. You were on the council once, I do believe. Perhaps that was a sign that someone noticed you helped.

2005-06-27 [RabidSphinx]: maybe my life is caryring over onto EP a little too much........ i have never been noticed for anything i have done there...best i have gotten for my good deeds around here (real life) is a fat lip...*sighs* fine.....back to work with me, even though i was already Bumped off of everything i helped with for so long.

2005-06-27 [Whim]: hehe...seriously, don’t feel bad. It’s not that we came up with that idea specifically, but the idea that eventually a group of players will have better cards than all the other players has occurred to us so the idea of splitting the tournaments into different levels has been discussed. As for the invitational bit, I think that it would be something we’d do if we maybe had a few more player sponsored tournaments around.

2005-06-27 [Whim]: You probably didn’t get bumped off of anything for helping or not helping. You probably got bumped for complaining or not helping quite as much as the next guy. Maybe even just simply not getting along well with your co-workers.

2005-06-27 [RabidSphinx]: actually, i was bumped because i wasn't talking enough (so they claim)...i guess my help wasn't appriciated enough that they didn't notice it without me constantly talking to point out i was working for them....

2005-06-27 [Whim]: Ok, well, either way, they didn’t say you didn’t help, they simply implied that they’re more comfortable with friendlier and possibly more helpful and reliable people. You don’t get on as much anymore--so it seems--so you’re here to speak up less. Plus there’s the thing where people generally assume you’re suicidal so you could go at any minute as well as the fact that your average EPer doesn’t care much for you in the first place meaning you probably have to work harder than everyone else to earn a spot on most things.

2005-06-27 [FireGypsy]: ouch, that was harsh [Whim] O_O

2005-06-27 [Sunrose]: [RabidSphinx], could you please move that discussion to the people responsible? And the topic of Toggery also belongs more on Toggery :)

2005-06-27 [Tear]: Whim, you seriously need to have me sit in on these conversations that you have with the rest of your crew.

2005-06-27 [Tear]: Sorry about that [Sunrose]

2005-06-27 [RabidSphinx]: sorry, [Sunrose] i dropped it, but you know [Whim] his goal in life seems to be to start crap with me. read his comment about me and you can clearly see he is trying to antagonize me by saying i'm "suicidal" and that most people on EP don't "care for me much" because he knoes i would defend myself....

2005-06-27 [Sunrose]: [Tear]: Well I don't mind little conversation as everyone probably knows, but this is getting pretty long and it would probably be more effective on Toggery ;) // [RabidSphinx]: I wasn't talking about [Whim] though. If you disagree with people taking you off duty, you should take it up with them...not much point in talking about it here...

2005-06-27 [RabidSphinx]: it was brought up, and i was told already to take it up elsewhere, and i have...[Whim] brought it up again because you know he likes to antagonize me...thus why i said i didn't want to fight with him about it and dropped it (again) while he talked toggery

2005-06-27 [Sunrose]: Uhm actually you started talking about it. He replied and you answered so he replied again etc. What's the point? Please take it somewhere else from here on, I don't have time for another needless discussion.

2005-06-28 [Tear]: Just out of curiosity, when did we get this "coolpoints" system? And does it have anything to do with us whatsoever?

2005-06-28 [Vader]: Yeah what is coolpoints I''ve bin given one but I don't know what they are.....

2005-06-28 [Gone4eva]: maybe coolpoints are like CamleBucks if you get enough you can send them in for a ElfPack lighter.

2005-06-28 [FireGypsy]: lol!

2005-06-28 [Whim]: But the most important question is why don’t I have more points than everyone else?

2005-06-28 [Dwemer]: ...

2005-06-28 [FireGypsy]: how do you get coolpoints?

2005-06-28 [Dwemer]: If people give you one.

2005-06-28 [FireGypsy]: thats a pretty nifty idea =) i wonder who came up with it!

2005-06-28 [Dwemer]: [Hedda] :) Of course.

2005-06-28 [Whim]: seems pretty cheesy though. I mean, yeah, point systems are always fun, but “cool” points seems a bit blah to me.

2005-06-28 [FireGypsy]: wait....so the thing on your house keeps track of how many coolpoints you have given out? Im lost. Can you give out anticoolpoints? when you give out a coolpoint, you lose a coolpoint? *falls over in confusion*

2005-06-28 [Dwemer]: I think it's pretty, 'cool'.

2005-06-28 [FireGypsy]: im so lost *bangs head on keyboard*

2005-06-28 [Whim]: Well, I’m thinking that since a lot of the Elfpackers around here are the types who like to be “uncool” to be different, there will be a lot of people who are going to purposely try to be uncool just to get a high score. Of course, it could go the other way in that coolness would be judged based on how much trouble you cause since troublemakers are seen as cool--if it’s decided by any random members that is.

2005-06-28 [FireGypsy]: can you give out anticoolpoints though?

2005-06-28 [Whim]: I’m really just curious to know how it’s supposed to work. Is it like the warning level on AIM where if someone’s a douche, you raise their warning level to signal to others that they’re not good people?

2005-06-28 [FireGypsy]: [Hedda] should make a page explaining the coolpoints system =)

2005-06-28 [Dwemer]: I agree on that.

2005-06-28 [Whim]: hmmm...well, it seems to me that it’s just a system where members can sort of rank eachother. You can apparently leave a “cool” or “uncool” comment on any person’s house. It’s sort of a way to publicize your appreciation or dislike for other members, though I wonder if it’s against the rules to leave “uncool” comments saying things like “This guy is a faggot.”

2005-06-28 [Dwemer]: Not if you give them a AntiCoolPoint :)

2005-06-28 [Whim]: Well, yeah, that’s what I mean. If you give the “anticoolpoint” then is it against the rules to like cuss the person out in the comment? We’re not allowed to make hate wikis and generally, you’re not supposed to bad mouth individual members on public wikis--or at least no official ones--and it’s considered harrassment to send private messages to people cussing them out, so do the “anticool point” comments have to be tasteful?

2005-06-28 [Vader]: Rather than "Coolpoints" wouldnt it be better to use the www.vampirefreaks.com method of rating system, 1-10 because cool and uncool are quite definate.....  Didnt the Welsh school system get in trouble for having a question on last years A level General studies paper saying "Define cool....."

2005-06-28 [Whim]: how do you get in trouble for asking for a definition of the word “cool.” I wish I went to that school system so I could be a smartass and explain that cool is tempature relative to a person’s heat tolerance.

2005-06-28 [Vader]: Yeah but cool is relative to each person, how do you mark it for an exam?

2005-06-28 [Whim]: You mark it based on use of grammar and the structure of the statement, not on whether or not the answer is correct. The idea behind questions like that is to get students to think and then made a valid attempt at explaining their thoughts. Of course, if some dumbass teacher decides to grade it based on the response being right or wrong, then yeah, that’s not right.

2005-06-28 [Vader]: I think thats why they got in trouble because the teachers werent trained to mark them properly. Stupid queston anyway, "Define cool..." ridiculous.

2005-06-28 [Whim]: oh yeah, it’s definitely a stupid question, but not an entirely useless one. Opinion questions are way underrated. They can really teach students how to think and the ability to think freely and thoroughly is a skill far greater than most others. If you can think very well, then you can figure most other skills out on your own. When the students have the ability to teach themselves, the teacher can teach new skills much easier.

2005-06-28 [Vader]: True, the R.S exam I just took was entirely opinion it was very difficult but thinking about what I really thought (if you get me) helped me write more.

2005-06-28 [Whim]: Yeah, I’m not so sure if testing students with opinion questions such a great thing. Your average teacher isn’t going to be able to grade things like that so well. But perhaps smaller grades and such for it would be appropriate. Also the idea of students speaking out more freely in classrooms would be good. Kids feel very silenced in schools. It’s hard to explore topics more deeply when the students don’t feel that they can ask or comment.

2005-06-28 [Vader]: It is a good idea in principle but speaking aloud isnt always good, many people in my year are so shy they can never speak in public.

2005-06-28 [Whim]: but if students are encouraged throughout school to speak up and ask questions or make comments, they’d be more confident and less shy. Most teachers encourage their classes to just sit quietly and assume everything the teacher tells them is completely right. School is about memorization. You’re taught to remember and do as your told--not to think for yourself.

2005-06-28 [Vader]: Yes, it's not a good way to teach children, it breeds sheep like behaviour, one on one would be a better way in an ideal world.

2005-06-28 [Whim]: well, obviously, one-on-one teaching isn’t possible in most situations, but it doesn’t have to be one-on-one. There are a few teachers out there who actually do welcome free speech in their classroom--provided it’s not disruptive and relative to the class. It’s not a difficult thing to do. One of the problems is that teachers are rushed because we keep raising standards so teachers don’t have time to let children speak up. They either keep up or fail because the teacher has to teach a certain amount of information within a school year.

2005-06-28 [Vader]: Well modern classrooms are no longer ruled over by the teacher, the "Yobs" now rule my school, it's very difficult to learn anything with constant disruption and the disciplin system is on the bad pupils side, second chances and final warnings.     Nice talking to you whim, I have to go, Good evening.

2005-06-28 [Whim]: Yes, discipline is a problem as well, but that brings up another issue entirely. If the students felt more comfortable in the classroom and weren’t bored by the material every single day of the year, they’d take more interest and put forth less of their attention towards being bad. Near impossible to fix boredom problems, I know, but teachers do very little to try to fix little things like that.

2005-06-28 [Vader]: I agree there is very little they can do, my school has tried a lot of different schemes but none seem to work out and the pupils seem to end up either enjoying them or worming out ot it.

2005-06-29 [Tear]: I am not reading all those comments, what happened?

2005-07-01 [Ultiem]: something did lol

2005-07-01 [Tear]: Lol, I kinda figured as much.

2005-07-01 [Vader]: Just a lil discussion on schooling... ^_^    Hey [Tear] any word on my report?

2005-07-03 [Tear]: I have been working on my others that are from those already on my crew, when I am done with theirs, I can look toward my recruits.

2005-07-05 [Lodengarn]: What all is there to volunteer for?

2005-07-06 [RabidSphinx]: we do stuff out of the goodness of our hearts....(^_^)

2005-07-06 [Lodengarn]: I'm wanting to help out with whatever I can I just don't know who to talk to to get started or what all there is that I could do.

2005-07-06 [RabidSphinx]: well, hmm...i don't know...i already help in places...i just started hekping when they opened and they became offical so, so did i....*shrugs*

2005-07-06 [Lodengarn]: Oh well. Thanks anyways.

2005-07-06 [RabidSphinx]: i'm sure there are others not as stupid as me that can help you....*feels bad*

2005-07-06 [Lodengarn]: don't worry. And try not to insult yourself like that. There is no need to call yourself stupid.

2005-07-06 [RabidSphinx]: sorry.... :/

2005-07-06 [Lodengarn]: no problem

2005-07-06 [Tear]: RAINEDROP! You got kudos for that comment. And you are not stupid, dear. Hey [Lodengarn] my section of the EP Independent is always looking for reviewers. If you are interested in writing out reviews, pop me a message.

2005-07-06 [Lodengarn]: Ok thanks

2005-07-06 [Solitiaum]: *hugs rainey* Good! We're making progress! Youre not repeating yourself and insisting on not seeing reality! *smerches*

2005-07-06 [RabidSphinx]: *hangs head* i find my silence is bliss for everyone else....

2005-07-06 [Solitiaum]: I have a favorish to ask of ya... *nodnods*

2005-07-06 [RabidSphinx]: ask of who?

2005-07-06 [Solitiaum]: You... you get to draw sunrose! *nodnods* As a sexay warden...

2005-07-06 [Dwemer]: But she allready is sexah...

2005-07-06 [RabidSphinx]: i do?

2005-07-06 [Solitiaum]: Yush, but now shes a sexay warden type ladeh... *nodnod*

2005-07-06 [RabidSphinx]: hahaha! i drew her as a bunny remember? lol

2005-07-06 [Solitiaum]: YES!! I need that image... Please... It'll earn you a harbringers badge!!

2005-07-06 [Dwemer]: What? That's sick! You can't do that!

2005-07-06 [RabidSphinx]: i have you as a skunk! but i can't find it!! (>_<) give me a minute to find yours...sunrose's i still have but i do not have the coloured virsion since someone else coloured it for her...you would have to ask her for that one...but i can send you the original at the very least

2005-07-06 [Solitiaum]: Nupe, Joost, isnt sick... It'd be cover art for the new off EP website, which would make her *tada!* a harbringer! Imagine that. Can yeh send meh teh one with all the hotties of EP?

2005-07-06 [Dwemer]: Ah, sorry for my last comment, I see...

2005-07-07 [FireGypsy]: Rainey, you should draw me as a kitteh!

2005-07-07 [RabidSphinx]: lol...i have to draw lots of people lots of things...lol...i drew me as a kitty...*giggles* i looked retarded

2005-07-07 [FireGypsy]: lol dont be silly! Im sure you didnt look retarded

2005-07-07 [RabidSphinx]: oh, i assure you, i did

2005-07-07 [FireGypsy]: well, post it and well just see =)

2005-07-07 [Dwemer]: *giggles*

2005-07-07 [RabidSphinx]: i would have to find it

2005-07-07 [Dwemer]: Before I do!

2005-07-07 [FireGypsy]: lol

2005-07-07 [RabidSphinx]: ...there it is...click on it to see it big

2005-07-07 [Dwemer]: Aww I love it! I want someone to make something for me... :(

2005-07-07 [RabidSphinx]: i did one of sunrose too...she was a bunny

2005-07-07 [FireGypsy]: WOW! I LOVE IT! thats so aweome

2005-07-07 [RabidSphinx]: LOL! thanks...hahaha

2005-07-07 [Dwemer]: ^_^ Do you know a artist who would be willing to draw something for me?

2005-07-07 [RabidSphinx]: i have been comisioned by EP to draw some people...lol

2005-07-07 [Dwemer]: *blinks*

2005-07-07 [RabidSphinx]: *blink blink*?

2005-07-07 [Dwemer]: *wink wink*

2005-07-07 [Tear]: You already have one of the ones from Glen and one from the comic peoples, how many do you want? Then again, Rainedrop is really good.....

2005-07-07 [Dwemer]: I want them all!

2005-07-07 [Tear]: As do I..... I need to send in my request for my comic character.

2005-07-09 [RabidSphinx]: this is so cool! i have a new badge!!!! *squeals* this is awesome! now i have to draw...lol...i have DEADLINES! *EEP*!

2005-07-09 [Tear]: Congrats, darlin'.

2005-07-09 [RabidSphinx]: *bounces around* i have ideas....i just have to figure out how i'm going to bloody draw them...what a time for artictic block!!

2005-07-09 [Tear]: Oiy, it happens, don't rush yourself too much, dear. I am happy, I finally have a decent music reviewer!!!

2005-07-09 [RabidSphinx]: i have until Aug. 1st to have them finished AND scanned...so i sort'a HAVE to rush........but i'm happy for you [Tear]...(^_^)

2005-07-09 [Tear]: Have them? What exactly are you working on anyway?

2005-07-09 [RabidSphinx]: drawings...not sure if i'm allowed to say or not...but you will see or hear soon enough...(^_^)

2005-07-09 [Tear]: Is this for our website? Because if so, I am the "Content Manager" as Kate put it, for the new website, and people are all going to have to submit their stuff to me anyway.

2005-07-09 [Solitiaum]: Yes it is, but Ive already used some of them for this edition. I'll be handling the banners, and thereby the coverart as well.

2005-07-09 [RabidSphinx]: so i *shouldn't* tel anyone? i haven't, because i wasn't sure, and really, it's no one's bussiness really...lol

2005-07-09 [Solitiaum]: You can mention it to the harbringers, just keep the whole thing hush hush for now... And the only one I need by Aug 1 is the one of Deb-san... *nodnods*

2005-07-09 [Solitiaum]: I take that back; the one of Dela will go on the custom 404 page...

2005-07-09 [RabidSphinx]: kk...i have a FUN idea for her...*giggles*

2005-07-09 [Tear]: Oh yeah, Kate, are you going to be setting up the pages? Because it is taking me forever to get all these damn files off the domain base. If you made them, it would be a lot easier, and then i could just edit them each month, copy and paste the new stuff into the code, and we are set. I don't even think that Dreamweaver would've been necessarry.

2005-07-09 [Tear]: Wait a second... you are making one for all of us? Or just Dela and Deb?

2005-07-09 [RabidSphinx]: i don't know...*shrugs* i do as i'm told

2005-07-09 [Tear]: Oh, I was about to say, that would be a ton of work for you, and I don't think you would be able to share the burden, if it were so, because i don't think people could mimic your style well enough for that.

2005-07-09 [RabidSphinx]: all i need is someone that can photoshop really...i can draw line drawings (like a colouring book almost) and have someone PS it...that would make my life easier because it would be less deatail i would havwe to do...but yes, my art is crazy-odd so no one else would get it *quite* the same

2005-07-09 [Solitiaum]: Just dela and deb-san... For this edition, anyways...

2005-07-09 [Tear]: I have a Dela bunny in my house, lol, as well as a Tear-bunny.

2005-07-09 [RabidSphinx]: i can have debby done ASAP...dela will take some effort since i can't recall her face from memory like i can sunrose

2005-07-09 [Tear]: Rainedrop, if you go to Elftown, Dela has more pictures up there, but i forgot what her username over there is. It is close to the one she has here though, I'll see if I can find some pics of her for you.

2005-07-09 [Tear]: Alrighty, I sent them to you for you to use. Two regular pictures and one that has a closer up view of her face.

2005-07-09 [RabidSphinx]: thank you. my drawings will suck and look nothing like her, but, *shrugs* oh-well

2005-07-09 [Tear]: NUH UH! They are going to rock! *add enthusiasm here*

2005-07-09 [RabidSphinx]: *shakes head and laughs* thanks though

2005-07-09 [Tear]: Anytime, dear.

2005-07-09 [Solitiaum]: [De'ladreing]

2005-07-09 [RabidSphinx]: (^_^) i have new pictures on my house...gosh i'm a camera whore...lol

2005-07-09 [Tear]: I already got it for her, Kate. You're about an hour and a half late.